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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are lots of independent theoreticians who have done independent work, then brought it out to a scientific community and it's sparked a ton of interest.

And I do mean "independent theoretician" as in a respectful euphemism to "mad bastards", although I prefer the latter. You could also use "a touch too inspired".

Okay well this guy was an actual academic, but the fox breeder came to mind first. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Belyayev_(zoologist)

Then three was the woman who mapped the entire sea floor by fucking drawing it painstakingly herself from like sonar scan results. She's essentially who discovered good proof of tectonic plates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Tharp

Tharp's discovery of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge caused a paradigm shift in earth science that led to the acceptance of the theories of plate tectonics and continental drift.

Okay well yeah she was an academic as well but those are just two massive names I can think of rn. And loads of us on Lemmy are actually academic, technically.

But anyway, basically the argument in the comic could've been used against those people, and definitely was against the plate tectonic lady.

Hell, the guy who figured out surgeons were killing patients but the morgue-full just because they weren't washing their hands tried desperately convincing people to wash their hands and doctors just kept mocking him like "haha, as if it was our faults the patients died, right, yeah, tiny little bits of corpses on our hands, yea, haha, good one, Semmelweiss".

Dude became rather aggravated that he'd figured it out and no-one listened. Ended up in an asulym and died of sepsis, the very thing he fought against so hard.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/01/12/375663920/the-doctor-who-championed-hand-washing-and-saved-women-s-lives

I feel that guy. Can share his frustration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Ppl don't realise just how many geniuses go unrealised. It's like 1/50-200 ppl.

Thanks for the link

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah I don't think cousin fucker McHillbilly from Wyoming or wherever the fuck has anything to do with these

Also, these are statistical outliers which make great news headlines. In reality most scientific advancements happen in academia but you can't make good clickbait for wine aunts like that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I mean obviously most advancements happen in academy.

I'm just saying it's not completely unrealistic for someone to actually realise something others have not.

I understand the depiction is of someone probably non-academic, but like... have you seen Slavoj Zizek?

That's an academic. Highly so.

My point is rather that yeah, let's mock anti-science dumb dumb, but also, let's not idolise academic institutions. They're much better for objective research and general advancement. But lots of their material are available for people who aren't actively in academia and can still utilise it.

I wish I had better examples, but yeah, I'm not defending the meme as being wrong, I'm just pointing out the stereotypes ans discussing nuances.

Fuck those "do your own research people", but love the people who actually do do proper research on their own, quote sourced, and actually contribute something, no matter how small.