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Messing around with Deepseek for worldbuilding and it keeps doing the Parenti "during the Cold War..." thing to my fictional societies (hexbear.net)

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Like any time I present it with a society that doesn't uphold liberal capitalist notions of freedom and individualism, it reads sinister motive into even the most unambiguously good things. Like I can tell it to "Expand on the following: this society maintains public granaries to ensure that no one starves during times of famine" and a good 2/3 of the time it'll go into a tangent about how this program to feed everyone is all just a plot by the ruling powers to maintain their control over the populace and keep the masses downtrodden. I am only barely exaggerating.

My point here is less about Deepseek (if you use AI expecting any results suitable for serious purposes, you're a fool) than about what it says about its training data, that being the Western internet. The level of bias in Deepseek only further demonstrates that this shit is the air we breathe, and it is why liberalism is anathema to any real understanding of politics or society.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Chatbots are only as good as what they're trained on, its mostly Western brainworms so don't expect differently. Only positive of Deepseek vs western chatbots is it has a better grasp of what diamat and dialectics are outside that common but purposefully limiting miseducated hamstring of synthesis, thesis, antithesis.

I figured this out when I asked Deepseek about fascism and so-called neofeudalism, while being generally a radlib it went full 'see Uighurs China bad' in said chat, which was a big nope moment. Also it presented Orwell as a positive figure, all I need to know about trusting this lil bot. Good for superficial surface level shit, if you're looking for comrade chatbot you won't ever find it unless you look in the mirror.