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If you read the article all he really says about the song itself is that it should not be banned because banning things simply gives them notoriety, which I agree with.
Yeah, banning the KKK just gives them notoriety. Sorry, but you have to be brain dead to buy into nonsense like this.
Kkk shouldn't be banned either, as long as they don't directly call for violence against anyone. Freedom of speech is there to protect speech that is unpopular. 20 years ago conservatives might have tried to ban transgender propaganda. LGBT propaganda is still banned in Russia, and many other places besides. You can't start picking and choosing acceptable speech- either you believe in free speech or you don't.
You position is undeniably stupid in the face of our modern world. Propaganda works and we will never be free of hate while "free speech absolutists" pretend they are anything more than hatemongers and charlatans.
Tolerance of intolerance has lead us down this road with you cheering the whole way apparently.
Haha so I'm a braindead, stupid hate monger and charlatan according to you... I hope you appreciate the irony of you being the one that wants to restrict this kind of free speech.
I agree that we will never be free of hate...period. Banning hate speech doesn't help. Germany banned denial of the holocaust, Nazi salutes, burning the Quran, and look at them now; the anti-immigration alt-right is the strongest there since the 1940s. However, if you allow freedom of speech you can at least prevent abuses of power by the government.
I really think you need to google the tolerance paradox.
The ONE thing a society must be intolerant of, is intolerance.
The KKK should be baned because they call for violence. They actively linch people. What are you talking about free speech?
Also, most places don't have free speech, while the biggest "free speech" country is already facist, so I'm not sure your argument of free speech not leading to terrible things hold up.
Canada has hate speech laws and get along just fine?
Oh I'm familiar with the paradox of tolerance, but it is not a consensus view that banning intolerant viewpoints is a good idea. Lynching and explicit calls for violence are plainly illegal and i dont defend them. However the KKK (to the extent that it even exists anymore) does not do those things, at least not officially. The ACLU famously defended the KKKs right to speak in public.
Assuming you're talking about America, the erosion of the constitution is a serious concern but we are far from being fascist (case in point, we are having this conversation without fear of retribution).
Canada "gets along fine" in the sense that they have fewer immigrants than the US or Europe so demographic tensions are not as acute. But there is sure as hell racism and xenophobia there as well. Meanwhile in Europe, with much heavier restrictions on speech, there is I would argue more racism and xenophobia than the US.
I don't know how you can with a straight face say the states aren't fascist the days after scanning of social media scanning
https://www.techpolicy.press/trumps-social-media-surveillance-social-scoring-by-another-name/
And the courts allow deportation of legal immigrants.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-allows-trump-revoke-protected-status-thousands-venezuela-rcna205657
I honestly wish to live in your reality. Sadly it's not actual reality.
Dude you're the one that wants to start arresting people for wrongthink. Deporting people for making antisemitic remarks is exactly the sort of thing that hate speech laws ENABLES. You should be happy about this.
I don't support social media surveillance but I don't think it's illegal to revoke visas based on that collected information. It's un-american in my opinion but that isn't fascism.
The supreme court ruling is also not surprising, Biden gave temporary protection to illegal immigrants and Trump took it away. None of that amounts to fascism.