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Would you rather have Trump's fascist regime and be an activist, or have Biden's much less worse administration and be an activist? Voting doesn't decrease your ability to participate in protests and so on.
False. You're significantly more likely to end up being human-traficked to an El Salvador prison under Trump.
Sadly true
that's literally the argument he made.
Vote for dems and be an activist.
Vote for reps and be a political prisoner.
I don't think they were actually disagreeing. Just making a tongue-in-cheek remark.
Indeed
You're not getting it.
When you're working 100 hours a week at three jobs and all your labor buys for you is a roach-infested studio apartment, it doesn't matter how nice the president speaks. The working class and poor have been living under fascism for years.
The message here isn't: "Vote for us because Trump's a fascist."
The message is: "Trump promised you this, but he's doing this instead and it's hurting your family. Vote for us and we'll put a stop to it." (Not that anyone thinks Democrats actually will, judging by their near-total lack of action so far.)
And for Christ's sake stop joking about how expensive food has become, because that's a very real problem and when people see Democrats joking about it, they think you don't care that they're starving.
So you think the only difference between the two is how "nice the president speaks". I guess which party controls the government doesn't affect you.
Love that for you, you privileged out-of-touch piece of shit.
If more people had voted for democrats it would've been a lot easier to get out of this shit by campaigning for a ranked choice voting system and taxing the rich. Instead you got fascism × 2 and expensive food.
Based on what facts? The impoverishment accelerated in a time when Democrats had the presidency AND Congress.
Not blaming the global post covid inflation solely on the democrats.
Truthfully a lot of it was simply corporate greed, and they should have spoken out against it. They didn't because they're subpar. They ignored the issue of the worsening economy because they're inadequate.
However, we could have had a chance at making at least some changes. Democrats at the very least would have pushed to codify abortion rights and not have tried to dismantle every government agency. But instead we have whatever the hell this is. It's actually delusional to believe Democrats would have been "exactly the same".
I don't love Democrats, but at least I have a basic sense of self preservation
I'm sure that Harris would have given us some glorious speeches while she allowed corporations to run roughshod over workers and added another four-percent to the war budget every year, but none of that matters for the reasons I stated above in the thread.
The problem here is that Democrats don't differentiate themselves in ways that matter to the vast majority of the poor and working class.
>looks at the absolute gutting of worker protections, union rights, funding to Medicare, funding to food stamps, and an unimaginable number of federal grants that go directly to providing services to impoverished Americans being pushed through executive action and congress
Yeah sure exactly the same, absolutely no difference between the two. The working class definitely won't be suffering any more
That right there should be the next Democratic campaign slogan:
"We suck marginally less than Republicans, not that it'll affect most of you in any meaningful way."
At least, that would be it if they were honest people.
I don't know how to make this any clearer this is not a full throated endorsement of the democratic party by any means. This is a pragmatic response to our failed governmental system.
If my choices are won't cut food stamps and will cut food stamps. I will vote for the party that won't cut food stamps.
I have plenty of criticisms for the "won't cut food stamps" party, but abstaining from voting and allowing the "will cut food stamps" party to win is the absolute worse option. If you want to pretend to care about the working class don't stand on a moral high ground and allow the "will cut food stamps" party to walk into a majority.
It's amazing isn't it?
These people have such moral purity that they abstain from voting and... help hurt fucking children.
They, in their inaction, are as responsible for the current situation as the republicans are.