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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

As long as the genocidal Zionist who founded Israel are still in charge of Israel, and as long as they largely have Western support. There is zero militarily, Hama's can do to make the lives of Palestinians better.

In the short term no, but in the long term? There very much is. The staggering growth of the Palestinian solidarity movement over the last 20 years has been and remains to be a massive threat to Israel's long-term continued existence via initiatives such as BDS, and the countdown on their demise really started with October 7th. It's easy to lose sight of this given that Gazans are currently victims of genocide (which, well, yeah our focus should be on the genocide) but this is big. If Gaza somehow survives this genocide, Hamas will have both mass death and destruction and a massive, conflict-shaping accomplishment under their belt. Not saying the genocide is a good thing; of course it's horrible, but when history books are trying to explain how Palestinians got their freedom (or died trying), half the text is going to be "Hamas did this so Israel did that and their popularity with their most ardent supporters plunged again."

Can you point to any public works, aid or assistance to the Palestinian people by Hamas? Has hamas as a government behaved as a government. Or have they only ever largely waged war? Genuine question.

I'm not sure it's possible or preferable for Hamas to build public works since they would almost immediately be bombed to oblivion, but they do a lot of the other stuff. They're definitely pretty corrupt, though.

That's how Hamas gained power. Hamas existing, doesn't justify Hamas existing. What have they done for the palestinians? And why shouldn't they be cast aside as other groups were.

Don't get me wrong I'm not defending Hamas's role as the leading Palestinian resistance organization; I would shed exactly zero tears if they were overthrown tomorrow. Nothing they're doing justifies the way they run Gaza, but that's one thing and the idea that they've done nothing to make Palestinians' lives better is another.