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Hideo Kojima says most Death Stranding playtesters told him 'it was a terrible game,' and he's a little bummed Death Stranding 2 is testing way better (www.pcgamer.com)

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"I'm not interested in appealing to the mass market, or selling millions of copies."

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

You're not wrong perhaps fundamentally as yes MGS itself got some very messy writing, retcons and shit, but I also feel like "movie standards" seems like a strawmen at this point after about 15 years of capeshit, disney shit, sequels and reboots most of which are still extremely profitable and somewhat successful have just lowered those standards significantly.

People like Nolan have achieved legendary success with barely above average quality overall so I'd put him a possibly like a Nolan tier below at the start, definitely above with experience. If the average person can say the love Nolan shit then Kojima would be more than fine. Standards are just as much about what the audience is willing to call good or bad.

Sure I'd agree the best movies in history are on a completely different level of what he could possibly achieve, this is undeniable but you don't need to reach that level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Okay but even the worst capeshit and disney garbage is at least capable of limiting itself to 2 hours. I'm not sure Kojima could limit himself to anything less than a miniseries unless physically threatened. But with regards to quality, I just think it's important we remember the level at which Kojima operates when discussing his possible forray into other media.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I think I agree . If Zach Snyder is allowed to make movies ...whats the harm at letting Kojima make some movies ? Like I dont think Kojima is like a god tier story teller but im sure he could do better than Zach Snyders Rebel Moon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Well he'll be better by simple virtue of Zach Snyder being a fascist who makes fascist movies.