I’m not going to click a link to a site so I can just click on another link. If you like Flibbar so much, just stay on Flibbar and let Lemmy be Lemmy.
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Their admin tried to advertise it to !gaming yesterday, by linking to his community for downloading malware posing as pirated AAA games.
I kept an unreasonably open mind and went to look though the site, and it seemed hopeless as a concept. Especially their statement that they could not reconcile moderation with free speech, shows that they aren't mentally equipped to run a site.
"Q: Will this site be overrun with racists?", "A: If people offend you, block them. If a community is dominated by people you don't get along with, leave it."
Yeah buddy that's exactly the decision we make for your entire site.
Yup, it's the same people that come here, say horribly offensive stuff, and then get offended when people tell them to shut the hell up and ban them. They're all for "free speech" but are not so great with the whole "free to not be forced to listen to them" bit.
However, my answer is always the same to them. We're federated. If you don't like it, to set up your own instance and allow whatever you want, and I can maintain my freedom to defederate from said instance. The one kudos to this guy is he did take that on, and is willing to risk hosting that content. Good for them. I'll be banning the url from my instance
The way I'd reconcile them would be when everyone can override moderation for what they themselves want to see, but without that the common default is applied.
That would be what we'd see in Fediverse projects if people were acting in good faith, too.
I dunno, somehow the best approaches I can imagine are those that existed in Usenet before it went out of use for discussions. Except for news servers having to store too much, and for spam protection happening after it gets posted, bad results. So probably things like group membership and post limits and such from today would be useful.
But in general Usenet was the way. I won't change my mind, because a few different systems converged on models similar to Usenet, that being itself, Fidonet, Frost and FMS in Freenet, boards in Retroshare, even frankly places like Reddit and Lemmy.
We need a Usenet 2.0, with some precautions from it turning into a place for bots and pirates, like the old one. IMHO. It can even use Fediverse identities (but preferably not, identities should be cryptographic and untied from instances ; or maybe an instance would only be needed when an identity is created and posted into the network, but then it can be banned\removed on that instance all they want, it'll be fully usable).
He posted it in !piracy as well and they seemed to be taking the bait. I hope admins end up banning him soon.
I saw that and it just felt so incredibly off. Literally saying things like "bro you can play any game you want". Salesman-ass bullshit.