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Why is socdem considered moderate fascism? (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Socdem is bad because capitalism etc etc I understand that, but I saw some people in here saying that socdem is OBJECTIVELY the moderate branch of fascism, which I don't really understand, because most socdems I know just want their basic welfare system, but are far from nationalism, advocating for genocide etc

I know it's still bad but for example in spain I feel there's a big difference between the francoist spain and the socdem wannabe spain, for the better

So please explain, and feel free to call out any brainworms that I might (probably) have shown in here

This could also just be a very funny line, like the "unlimited genocide on the first world" thing, idk

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think I understand now. So socdems are more likely to side with capitalism, which can (?) result in fascism?

Like both are bourgeois tools to deradicalize the proletariat, and one is more moderate than the other?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They share the goal of reinforcing capitalism by removing radicals from society with fascism and they follow the same path -

Revolutionary Left threatens the bourgeoisie
Social democracy is implemented
Radicalism decreases under the better conditions
Social democratic policies are taken away

This follows the same pattern as fascism because they share the same goals. They're different methods of addressing the same problem.

Social democracy is not implemented without a reason, that reason is the threat of socialism. Fascism is not implemented without a reason, that reason is the threat of socialism.

Different tools in the same toolbox.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

I get it now, thank you solidarity