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Socdem is bad because capitalism etc etc I understand that, but I saw some people in here saying that socdem is OBJECTIVELY the moderate branch of fascism, which I don't really understand, because most socdems I know just want their basic welfare system, but are far from nationalism, advocating for genocide etc

I know it's still bad but for example in spain I feel there's a big difference between the francoist spain and the socdem wannabe spain, for the better

So please explain, and feel free to call out any brainworms that I might (probably) have shown in here

This could also just be a very funny line, like the "unlimited genocide on the first world" thing, idk

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I always thought it was the system established by it then just generic "socdems"

Since to provide that welfare state under capitalism you must do shit loads of Imperialism, especially relative to the state's size (or be sitting on a century of stolen capital)

It just doesn't bring the Imperialism home. But basically does double the amount abroad

Then once the "right" wing of fascism moves in they just leverage that state capacity and bring that shit home

(average actual socdem i would not treat as a fascist just someone that needs to be brought a tad further left)