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Why is socdem considered moderate fascism? (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Socdem is bad because capitalism etc etc I understand that, but I saw some people in here saying that socdem is OBJECTIVELY the moderate branch of fascism, which I don't really understand, because most socdems I know just want their basic welfare system, but are far from nationalism, advocating for genocide etc

I know it's still bad but for example in spain I feel there's a big difference between the francoist spain and the socdem wannabe spain, for the better

So please explain, and feel free to call out any brainworms that I might (probably) have shown in here

This could also just be a very funny line, like the "unlimited genocide on the first world" thing, idk

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Notably first published just a few years after the socdems in Germany sent the freikorps to murder actual communists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I've seen others use this same logic to say that MLs are the equivalent to even lefter groups, though. Like how Soc Dems have betrayed communists, MLS have always betrayed and backstabbed anarchists. I haven't read enough history to know if that's true so I never argue this point. I guess one of the things they may be referring to is the Bolshevik 1917 revolution, and their betrayal of the elections, squashing of other socialist factions, etc?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

squashing of other socialist factions

Like who, SR's and mensheviks who were counterrevolutionary for even a February Revolution and went full imperialist?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

(Without re-litigating the events of the Russian revolutions)

What was the result of the socdem betrayal in Germany? The rise of the Nazi party.

What was the result of the communist "betrayal" in Russia? The USSR, who defeated the Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly.