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https://brave.com/download/
That's not the link for Firefox
Yeaaaahhh, not feeling Marc Andreessen and the uptick in spying and upselling coming from the Mozilla foundation lately.
Then go for it's forks Waterfox or Librewolf?
Brave is tied to Peter Thiel, the other PayPal cunt using his wealth to make the world worse.
oh, is that human also related to paypal? I know it as a (former) big facebook investor
PayPal is a merge of Confinity (where Thiel is one of the founders for) and X.com (another online financials company at that time, and we all know who is obsessed with X).
https://librewolf.net/
That's what I would go with, personally, because it's at least helping keep one alternative browser base alive instead of giving Google the entire ecosystem of everything being based on Chromium. But that's just me.
And your alternative is the cryptobro farm Chromium skin?
I mean, we're grading on a curve, I guess, but... I think I'm sticking with FF for now.
Man, branding and PR are weird.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/28/opinion/marc-andreessen-manifesto-techno-optimism.html:
Seems like a nice guy. 👍
He is not in Mozilla as far as I know, so what's your point?
In fact I don't think he ever worked for Mozilla besides just making Mosaic/Netscape. Does @[email protected] not realize "Mozilla" stands for "Mosaic Killer"?
Don't know if it's a joke, but the name Mozilla should be Mosaic+Godzilla
https://books.google.com/books?id=wL2UDIPp2dMC&q=mozilla+mosaic+killer+newman&pg=PA115#v=snippet&q=mozilla+mosaic+killer+newman&f=false https://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/ https://www.davetitus.com/mozilla/
Oooh interesting, thanks.
Brandon Eich and Peter Thiel are also very questionable folk. If you prefer to stick with a Chromium, may I recommend Vivaldi? It's made by people involved in old Opera (before that became a chromium skin as well).
Did not know Thiel was an investor, actually. If we're judging software based on the personality of people we've read random crap about in the press then that'd indeed be disqualifying.
However, I'd argue maybe that's not a great way to pretend you have any agency in an aggressively oligopolistic environment.
We may need to stop making choices based on knee-jerk personality-driven branding crap and start focusing on systemic issues. Just... you know, as a species.
Unfortunately, as long as our species put abstract and overall pretty useless concepts such as wealth before survival and basic decency towards each other, I don't think we ever tackle systematic issues.
Crazy shit.