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Nice conversation you had right there in your head. I assume you also took a closer look at it to get a neutral opinion and didn't just ride one of the two waves "blind AI hype" or "blind AI hate"?
I've taken a closer look at Codestral (which is locally hostable), threw stuff at it and got a sense for what it can and can't do. The general gist is that its (Python) syntax is basically always correct, however it sometimes messes up the actual code logic or gets the user request wrong. That makes it a good tool for code questions aimed at specific features, how certain syntax in a language works or to look up potential alternative solutions for smaller code snippets. However it should absolutely not be used to create huge chunks of your code logic, that will always backfire.
And since some people will read this and think I'm some AI worshipper, fuck no. They're amoral as fuck, the only models not screwed up through their creation process are those very few truly FOSS ones. But if you hate on something you have to actually know shit about it and understand its appeal and non-hyped usecases (they do have them, even LLMs). Otherwise you'll end up in a social corner filled with bitterness and, depending on the topic, perhaps even increasingly extreme opinions (not saying we shouldn't smash OpenAI and other corposcum into tiny pieces, we absolutely should).
There are technologies that are utter bullshit like NFTs. However (unfortunately?) that isn't the case for AI. We just live in an economy that's good in abusing everything and everyone.
holy fuck this is so many words to say so little
so congrats I’m upgrading your ban and also pruning you from the thread
on the one hand I feel for other people who'll maybe read this thread somewhen down the line
on the other, it's not exactly like I clipped words in my post
also, unless extraneous circumstance, please don't clip their display of abusive nonsense
I bet they'd just haaaate it to be on the internet, and yet it's exactly the kind of fingerprint of theirs that people should be able to find
that you recognize none of this is telling. that someone else got it, more so.
you could just ask, you know. since you seem so comfortable fondling prompts, not sure why you wouldn't ask a person. is it because they might tell you to fuck off?
fuck off with the unrequested advertising. never mind that no-one asked you for how you felt for some fucking piece of shit. oh, you feel happy that the logo is a certain tint of ? bully for you, now fuck off and do something worthwhile
a tool you say? wow, sure glad you're going to replace your *spins the wheel* Punctured Car Tyre with *spins the wheel again* Needlenose Pliers!
so, you think there's moral problems, but only sometimes? it's supes okay to do your version of leveraged exploitation? cool, thanks for letting us know
oh yeah, right, the "truly FOSS ones"! tell me again how those are trained - who's funding that compute? are the licenses contextually included in the model definition?
wait, hold on! why are you squealing away like a deflating balloon?! those are actual questions! you're the one who brought up morals!
I've met people like you at parties. they're often popular, but they're never fun. and I always regret it.
citation. fucking. needed.
Holy shit, get some help. Given how nonsensically off-the-rails you just went you clearly need it.
no shithead, you don’t post this many paragraphs of mid garbage unprompted then call the other person unhinged
Bro, sneerclub and techtakes are for sneering at bad technology and those that worship it, not for engaging in apologia for it (or worse yet, tone policing the sneering). If you don't like it, you can ask the mods for an exit pass out (if they haven't generously given you one already).
Wait, this is a sneer club??? 🧑🏿🚀🔫🧑🏿🚀
I see, accidentally stumbled into a "venting" channel where people are allowed to be assholes to each other if you don't fully act as part of the hating majority. My bad, I'll quickly leave this basement.
Here, have a community ban to enforce that self-proclaimed flounce.
You can take your piss bottles with you!
once again: take your abuser bullshit and fuck off, thanks
if you can't make a good that's a you problem. if people end up poking holes in your shit and you suddenly can't keep your incoherent nonsense together, still a you problem. but:
take your abuser bullshit and fuck right off, thanks
This is a standard Internet phenomenon (I generalize) called a Sneer Club, i.e. people who enjoy getting together and picking on designated targets. Sneer Clubs (I expect) attract people with high Dark Triad characteristics, which is (I suspect) where Asshole Internet Atheists come from - if you get a club together for the purpose of sneering at religious people, it doesn't matter that God doesn't actually exist, the club attracts psychologically f'd-up people. Bullies, in a word, people who are powerfully reinforced by getting in what feels like good hits on Designated Targets, in the company of others doing the same and congratulating each other on it.