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Even if they WERE done for funsies (which, like you said,they're not), they'd just be early c sections. Nobody just kills an embryo if both it and the pregnant person could reasonably survive.
Yep, and it is still fundamentally the choice of nobody but the person carrying the foetus
Yep, nobody can be forced to use their body for anything, including the survival of a foetus, embryo, or even fully developed human. It's so weird how most people would agree that nobody should be forced to even donate blood to save a life, but if it's a uterus, it's somehow controversial.
It's easy to understand when you realise that it's all about controlling women
If men could get pregnant, then having abortions would be something boasted about in locker rooms
The fact that men can't get pregnant has been a source of privilege and power for all time
The whole point of civilisation is that we are supposed to be able to overcome our base nature, but I have never really believed that civilisation had ever been anything other than a thin veneer
Thinner in many places than others, and America is a horrifying example of a polished turd.
Don't scratch the surface or poke it even a little bit...
Oh yeah, that's what it is in origin. But not for every idiot who falls for it. Some genuinely take it at face value and don't apply the same anti-bodily-autonomy logic to anything else, and that's what I find confusing.
Because you're making the mistake that they are capable of thinking like reasonable people
They are fuelled by ignorance, self-righteousness and hate
Don't forget the hypocricy. They would have an abortion in a heartbeat, or force one on their daughters if it suited
There's certainly many cases like this. But I wouldn't be dismissive like that- some are ONLY ignorant. I've changed someone's mind before. They hadn't had access to all that much formal education and it was just the standard way of thinking in their village. The hadnt heard it explained like I did before.