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Good. People need to stop renting software.
I dunno, I still find m365 family a great deal. 5TB cloud storage for less then 100 euro a year? And get the best most complète Office suite as a bonus?
If you compare that to the competition it's a slam dunk. I need cloud storage. I need an office suite.
Same goes for prime here in NL by the way. Unlimited photo storage, free games monthly, streaming, Luna, free shipping for less then 6 euro.
they are great deals til enough ppl sign up, get used to it and attached, then comes price gouging, it happened with adobe
Honest question, what does the current office suite does, or does better, that office 2013 doesn't?
There are actually a lot of newer excel features that are not cross compatible.
I was running 2010, then 2013 for a very long time. Eventually I started running into compatibility issues when collaborating on professional and hobby projects until it got to a point where I went for 365. It's a shame that it's subscription, but it's definitely great software
Not riddled with security holes I guess
Nothing.
You get as lot of extra tools which integrate but my honest opinion is nothing.
Thats Why i stated 5 TB cloud storage for less then the competition as usp.
Copilot, copilot everywhere... :p
You can actually "cancel" your account into a "classic" account without copilot. It's fuckin' weird and hidden, but you can do it. Obviously no price difference.
Frequently paying any amount of money for anything will always seem like a good deal to anyone who always depends on others to do everything. There's no shame in needing each other, though. We should strive to be self sufficient but can't be skilled or resourceful in every field. Abusing the needs of others on the other hand... All these huge companies should burn to the ground for that.
I really hope it's not like goog where if you ever want to download that data your download speeds are reduced to a crawl and everything about the download is convoluted.
Yeah, it's why I stopped using Amazon Glacier years ago and use ProtonDrive now. The actual storage costs are pretty reasonable, but if you ever want to download your data, shit gets very expensive very fast.
Just wanted to give an idea for pricing of a self hosted alternative:
You can chose other parts, you may already have some parts, Im giving my own example here.
Keeping in mind you need to be a bit tech savy to set this up, keep it updated, data secure, things may break down the line and require maintenance, etc.. The upside: the data is yours, you are reliant on yourself, it can do more than just store files.
But obviously: to each their own!
You also need to account for RAID and backups. Storing everything on a single drive without copies is asking for sad times.
Generally yes, and this obviously doubles the cost of storage. The good thing is you have options. In my view, not all data is the same so I view some data as more valuable as other data and can do backups of only specific things on drives I already have.
Really?
I bought a 4TB external hdd ~6 months ago at 149 EUR and thought that was cheap. Dang.
Looks like prices are up a bit, I got a portable 5tb one for 100 a year ago. Now they are more like 125. I'm seeing a 6tb refurbished one for 100 though.
Went on Amazon and found a Seagate barracuda 8TB drive for 130€
Probably not the best for an actual server, but for a personal NAS seems reasonable
I dunno, the cloud storage part is quite easy to make at home. Granted, the initial price will be steeper (since you need to buy the physical drive). But in two years time, it will have paid for itself and your data will still be yours.
As for the office suite, while I understand that MSOffice is advanced, for the regular user that I am, OnlyOffice is more than enough.
until your house burns down, part of the appeal of cloud storage is that its on the cloud (at some massive server building) lol, and the big companies can be relied on to have their own backups, I just wouldn't trust my own at home cloud all the way, id need both that and online