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[–] [email protected] 121 points 6 hours ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Sigh, Its worse than that. Most of us are lazy. Lazy with their thoughts and how they learn new information. By the time they notice how bad they have it wrong you want to slap them. Of course most of them will blame anyone but themselves for their problems.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Yup.

Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I'm surrounded by fucking morons. And I'm not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.

Not a great feeling. Especially since that probably means things aren't generally gonna get better. Can't have a good society if it's overflowing with dipshits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 minutes ago

Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.

Yep, I'm smart enough to know I'm not that smart. But I can at least look around me and go "This isn't normal, right?"

It's a weird fucking curse to have. Smarter than the average American due to the decades of under-funding the education system. I know how to use a computer more than boomers and younger people stuck using machines locked down by corporations.

Ask me to do a math question higher than high school level? I'm going to flounder. You ask me who was president in 1890 without looking it up, I probably know it. And I know that's not exactly a flex, it's probably overall better to know more advanced math than trivia, but it's just how my brain works.

And yet I'm still smarter than Trump and his cultists.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What's the George Carlin quote? Something about how stupid the most average person you know is, then realize that 50% of people are dumber than that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah that's the bit pretty much word-for-word

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

We don't have that on lock, dipshit. Look around you, the entire world is fucking up royally. We just happen to be one of the biggest shitshows going.

The fact that you treat Americans like a monolith shows that you're dumb as fuck too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, I dunno broseph. Lots of other first world countries have things like universal healthcare, paternity leave, significant and mandatory vacation, longer lifespans, generally higher quality of life and happiness, politics that aren't straight up clown shows, more human rights.

You've successfully nailed an obvious generalization that there are stupid people everywhere, but the point is that stupidity is hyper-concentrated in the good ol' US of A. As is evident.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Just accept it. We have free healthcare for 50 years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

I mean. Many countries are still resisting to the right-wing authoritarian push. Canada for example. Americans democratically elected dt, even after he tried to overturn the government and explicitly stated that he would be a dictator. I don't think that would have been possible in any other country. So yeah, in a sens, Americans are dumb af. Now if you want to make it semantic question, I guess he should have written " a majority" of Americans "electors" are dumb, but it's kind of implicit IMO. Kind of like saying dogs likes to run, obviously there's probably some that don't like to run, but the majority does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

oh boy, you really showed them!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, he made a huge mistake.

Its merely that most Americans are dumb as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

This is by design. Decades of eroding education and critical thinking have produced a populace that is highly ignorant and extremely easy to manipulate.

There is a reason why attacking education is the first thing any right-wing government does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Doesn't help that a whole lot of idiots also think it's somehow very clever of them to "rise above" it all by acting like it's "both sides". This is what passes (for a special kind of smug idiot) for political acumen.

Of course, the "liberal media" harps on the "both sides" thing all the freaking time. Which is why I find it mighty curious that a lot of supposed "leftists" take up that mantra, too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Amongst wealthy countries, the US scores above average in science and reading comprehension, and are only really showing lag in mathematics. In terms of critical thinking, this has been a baked-in element of the curriculum, that was intentionally baked-in, for a long time now. Most countries are this way, and those that have dedicated time to specifically critical thinking, as its own subject, are relatively new, and not many do it, in primary education, yet. So this means the US is not unique in how poorly students are taught critical thinking, amongst countries with similar levels of resources.

Also, baby boomers demonstrated a lower level of critical thinking skills, than kids do today, they also show sharper cognitive decline, earlier in life, than X, and millennials have been. So is it that the conservatives have been trying to disassemble the public school system, to move funds to privatized education, thus eroding the common access to education? If so, why does the US actually score well compared to its peers? Why is it that the oldest common generation is actually the worst of the common generations, still alive, for things like critical thinking, and cognitive decline?

So there is some other factor(s) that make the US seem to stand out on this issue, amongst peers. Could it be US media specifically empowering the voice of morons, because outrage drives viewership, and profit is the only goal to US news/media companies? Is it that the elites within the conservative party have redesigned their entire party structure, and playbook, to empower morons, because morons vote for them more often than not? Is it a combination of these factors, and others, that have been shaping the US in this fashion? Could this be why we have been seeing greater, and greater, pushes from political influence groups, in other countries, that have ties to US wealth? Things like dismantling the NHS, establishing US style media as the dominant party in places like europe (murdoch family owned outlets getting larger pieces of the pie, and pushing sentiment to dismantle not for profit sources, like the BBC, and NPR/PBS, for example), far right parties, trump cocksuckers, putin cocksuckers, etc. have been on the rise for past ten plus years? Could it also be that people are growing increasingly disaffected with capitalism, and there are a lot of people lashing out, lacking understanding of what is causing life to be more difficult, and reaching out, in desperation, to anyone who sounds different from those who got us here, even if it should be obvious those people would likely make these specific issues worse? Is it that these things are also compounded with a growing desire, amongst the growing disproportionately wealthy set, to push all the bad aspects of societal structure, to hasten its collapse, and then swoop in to take over directly?

IMHO it is all of the factors in the previous paragraph, and others I haven't bothered to bring up, and not so much the education system, at least not yet. Sorry for the word vomiting in this post.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Indeed, add in all the religious meddling in educational curriculum and you've got a recipie for an ignorant population.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

And depending on how that SCOTUS ruling goes on religious charter schools....it might accelerate.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The rest of the world too. Americans are just louder and prouder about stupidity.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That is objectively false. Other countries are far more educated.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Don't mistake education for intelligence.

Trump has a degree from Wharton.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Correction: Trump's father BOUGHT a degree from Wharton.

No one who actually earned a college degree, especially from a notable college, speaks and acts and makes mistakes like Donald Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm sure Wharton educated trump. Whether any of it mattered... Well that's the difference between education and intelligence....