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How did China survive/evade USA fuckery so well? (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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When I look at other communist nations, they were invaded, couped, and/or sabotaged at every opportunity, and (forgive me, my history of China is weak) while I'm sure that China faced obstacles from capitalists outside of the country, it somehow rose up to be the power that it is today while the USSR fell, Vietnam and Korea got bombed to hell and back, Cuba was put under crippling sanctions, and surely countless other uprisings got squashed young.

But china didn't just survive, they thrived. How?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Jesus, did no one study history? It's not nukes, not even close.

There's literally too many things to list. China is massively powerful because of a enormous litany of reasons.

Let's start with social media. Way before USA realized social media could be a national security issue, China blocked US social media. At the time we complained it was a free speech issue, now we know that social media is being used by western nations as propaganda tools, Arab spring anyone? Good thing China blocked that shit.

Another thing China did was antagonize USA to see what they would cut off. Before Chips, it was the Wolfe act that blocked China from NASA. China took that opportunity and now is the only nation with a space station that isn't falling out of the sky.

Now we are seeing China implementing Sun Tzu's win without fighting. Basically if you keep antagonizing your opponent, they'll eventually waste all their resources to compete with you. Thus, winning without firing a shot.

So yeah, it's a huge mix of strategies.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You say it's not nukes yet you start with things that were only possible because of nukes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Whaaa? Blocking social media requires nukes? What's going on in Iran then?

Antagonizing USA requires nukes? What's happening in Venezuela?

Waiting out your opponent requires nukes? Well at this point I point to the entire planet waiting out USA's tariff plan.

Not sure where anything I said doesn't have an analogous example of a country doing exactly that and they do not have nukes. It's just no one does all at once which is as I said the real reason China is winning.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Whaaa? Blocking social media requires nukes? What's going on in Iran then?

Secret nukes.

Antagonizing USA requires nukes? What's happening in Venezuela?

Secret nukes.

Waiting out your opponent requires nukes? Well at this point I point to the entire planet waiting out USA's tariff plan.