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You say it's not nukes yet you start with things that were only possible because of nukes
Whaaa? Blocking social media requires nukes? What's going on in Iran then?
Antagonizing USA requires nukes? What's happening in Venezuela?
Waiting out your opponent requires nukes? Well at this point I point to the entire planet waiting out USA's tariff plan.
Not sure where anything I said doesn't have an analogous example of a country doing exactly that and they do not have nukes. It's just no one does all at once which is as I said the real reason China is winning.
Kinda, yeah. If you don't have nukes, you can't keep antagonizing the US without the risk of getting invaded and/or nuked. Like MacArthur proposed literally just before China developed nukes.
Secret nukes.
Secret nukes.
Whole world's got nukes. Secret nukes.
Being independent and relatively free of harassment by the cia requires nukes. How many coup attempts have there been in venezuela? Why do the US and Israel spend so much effort assassinating Iranian scientists? China can do the things it does because it has the power to. You dont start with blocking social media, blocking social media is a thing you can do when youve laid the groundwork.
anyway i was making a joke and now im actually arguing for it when others in this thread have better answers lol
Well, no. I mean if you look at history, USA has tried all those things in China as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_espionage_in_China
China is just better at handling it. There's reasons for this, but that's a whole separate topic of conversation. Suffice to say, look at what happened in 2010. That's why China can do it, not the nukes.
Yeah I'm going to say nukes are the starting point