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[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 day ago (5 children)

In case, like me, you don't/didn't know:

The MOT test (or simply MOT) is an annual test of vehicle safety, roadworthiness aspects and exhaust emissions required in the United Kingdom for most vehicles over three years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOT_test

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I was wondering how a car could get a Message Of The Day. I use Arch btw.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago

I feel like I've been rickrolled.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

It's still wild to me that any developed nation DOESNT have mandatory road worthiness inspections.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Texas in the US just got rid of safety inspections this year. They still do emissions testing for cars newer than 25 years, but it is up to the county and most rural counties don't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

You still have to pay the inspection fee.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Melbourne, Australia: Zero inspections ever.

I purchased a used car a decade ago and I have never had a mechanic service it or inspect it. I had a proper shop do a head gasket swap 5 years ago and I legit think I could have done a better job just reading the workshop manual and having a go.

It won't get forced into a roadworthy check unless a cop pulls me over for something super obvious like smoke billowing out the side.

I know someone who bought a car second-hand and onsold it 5 years later with the same oil that was originally in it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Seems for EU it's mandatory for all members

The EU Directive 2014/45 of April 3, 2014 mandates all member states to carry out periodic safety and emission (roadworthiness) inspections for most types of motor vehicles including passenger cars, light and heavy goods vehicles, trailers, tractors with designed speed exceeding 40 km/h and, from 1 January 2022, motorcycles with engine displacement over 125 cm3

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Annual tho? That's a bit much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 51 minutes ago

A lot has happened in a year.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We also have this regular inspection. Doesn't apply to new cars, the first time is when the car is 4 years old, then every 2 years until 8, then its every year.

There's a nice benefit to it - they keep the history of how many km the car has in total at that point. You can check this when buying a used car to see if anyone fiddled with the odometer, any big changes should be really obvious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, they have this here in Australia too? I have never heard of this.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

You should check out some of the state rules in the US. Some are strict, others don’t even exist

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

My state use to have emissions and safety inspections. It was like a 600 page pdf for all the safety stuff that had pretty annual updates. People would consistently work around it though. A handful of years ago they voted to kill off the safety part under the guise that it would be cheaper for residents. What really happened is everybody and I mean everybody just raised their emissions testing price to what it used to be for both. Safety took 15-30 minutes to do as they had to crawl around and poke and prod a ton of places. Emissions they just plug in the computer and 2-3 minutes later you’re done. So workload decreased and the price stayed exactly the same…

Sure, now residents don’t have to swap wheels(tires that extend past the body is a super common mod that was an instant fail) and other things to pass safety every year so that surely saves cost if they were paying somebody to do it. Also the cost of actually fixing things like replacing bald tires and burnt out lights.

The amount of cars with no brake lights, treadless tires, etc. is so much higher. Was walking through my work parking lot and one car’s tire had the steel cords showing…oof.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

And some of them vary wildly county to county!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Apparently,

The name derives from the Ministry of Transport,[5] a defunct government department, which was one of several ancestors of the current Department for Transport, but is still officially used.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOT_test

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

My brain immediately 1984'd that to MiniTrans and then immediately imagined trans mini me from Austin Powers

This wasn't useful information to anyone but I figured at least one other poor soul needed to go on that journey with me

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In the US they're normally called car inspections, if the state/county even has them (yes, we're monsters over here more and more).

Why would you need to talk to anyone for an annual test? Is it typical to try and upsell a repair, like in the cheap oil change places? All the inspection centers I've ever used they want you in and out, and the most they'll try to sell is a replacement wiper or bulb because what you have won't pass. They just ask if you want to pay for it installed now to pass or come back later after you do it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

In Finland the places doing the inspections only do that, they don’t offer any car repair services.

No conflict of interest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

In my memory, they will get you to try and do a brake fluid change, a transmission fluid change (if your car does those), steering fluid, expensively change your air filters, swap brake pads, pay for rotor something-or-other, bla bla bla.

Some people drop money because they don't want to NOT do something important, and they don't know any better.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Not really. In California it's called a smog check

And many American states do not have any kind of mandatory inspection

The UK MOT covers a lot more than just emissions. The vehicle needs to have appropriate tyre tread, windscreen in safe working order, no check engine light, etc. And mileage is recorded to reduce potential for fraud. Many other things are checked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

US state inspections are all that too. Emissions is actually the first thing to expire being checked on older cars, since it becomes impossible to maintain the standards as parts age. Also new cars (3 years or less) are exempt from the emissions check/charge (in my state anyway) I guess because it's assumed they are working as designed.

Again, this is if they even do them. And while I don't agree with it, I can see some areas eliminating emissions for some reasons. But you can tell places that don't do inspections at all, because the cars on the road can be very questionable from even a novice if they are safe to be around at speed. Why basic safety issues isn't a federal thing mandated to all is beyond me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Also new cars (3 years or less) are exempt from the emissions check/charge

This might sound obvious but: EVs and motorcycles (without modded exhausts) are also exempt from SMOG. The former for hopefully obvious reasons, the later because motorcycles pollute so much less than cars that it's not worth the bother

So those don't ever have to go in for any kind of looky-loo at all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Maybe it's state-specific, but both of them in my state still require a safety inspection (which is obviously less cost).

Looking up California, that's where the confusion on my part is. All they care about is emissions. I guess you can have bald tires and only one light working, as long as you don't emit too much CO. That's ridiculous.