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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is wishful thinking at best and completely delusional at worst.

if they understand it lead to world war three maybe they wouldn't rebuild it.

i'd say "normies stop using the internet" is less out there than the white western left doing a revolution.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

This is wishful thinking at best and completely delusional at worst.

This came off as far more hostile and insulting than I intended. Sorry for being a dick.

The human cost of WWIII is even more bleak than the west being lost to neoliberal capitalism forever.

Building dual power is probably the only way to circumvent this, which would necessarily include communication systems. Given that the fediverse is completely vulnerable to LLM spam bots, I don't think we have the means to implement this via anything that exists now.

Chicken and egg problem with needing to reach people to stir development or get people off proprietary comms systems. I don't think western left has the juice to do anything required for revolution, and we probably have the deck stacked against our success than most revolutions that have failed.

i'd say "normies stop using the internet" is less out there than the white western left doing a revolution.

You fail to account for the possibility that the white western left does the stupidest revolution imaginable. Doubtful, but a revolution that doesn't completely threaten bourgeois interests could succeed. Maybe then the conditions could be met for our October revolution.

In reality, neither of these will happen. Only way either of these happen within our lifetimes is if a civil war destroys enough of modern internet infrastructure.