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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Your memory is faulty. Musk "was" a visionary savant that tried to advance humanity by making EV mainstream and advancing the mars mission. The facade dropped recently

Edit because people will mention it. Yes musk was always shitty and Its doubtful that he deserves credit for any of his ventures. But most people didn't realize that until at least 2022.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

July 16, 2018. That's when Musk called that rescue work a pedophilia.

That's when his antics couldn't be hand waved as eccentric or trolling. The rumors that he was a shitty boss weren't back up yet, he was still pro-LGBT and he had renewed public interest in space travel after the shuttles were retired.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

But Tesla was popular before that. In 2012, Tesla was the only EV that didn't completely suck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

Its honestly blown my mind that it's taken this long to get something that's even somewhat competitive with the Tesla's.

Like a Model 3 is $35k, has a near perfect safety score, can go like ~360 miles on a charge, and is a 4 door sedan.

Let's look at some competitors why don't we?

  • BMW i3 has a 4 star rating, gets like ~300 miles range, and costs $60k
  • Honda Prologue does have a 5 star rating, but it only gets ~300 miles range, and is a SUV, it also starts at $50k
  • BYD HAN (the only one i could see on their website in the states) only gets "300+ miles" on a charge, but it supposedly only costs around $30k. I also couldn't find any safety information that didn't come from the Chinese government so I wont comment on that.

Obviously Musk is a bad guy and you shouldn't give him money and all that. But it seems like the legacy manufacturers are like 3-4 years behind, and that's the smallest the gap has ever been.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with lengau too. He's always been a grifter, claiming other people's achievements as his own, implementing unsafe practices in his factories, union busting, etc...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It wasn't very easy to see without paying close attention to him though. And who was paying close attention to him at the time?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Thunderf00t was paying attention, but I can't think of too many others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I got into an argument over it with people in 2016-2017.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

He was always this bad and I've been warning people about him for a decade or more. That's the point - own the fact that you were ignorant rather than pretending this was some sort of change in him.