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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If that's the biggest complaint you hear, then I feel like you should broaden your reading list.

How about:

  1. Backing a genocide
  2. Backing a rapist who bombed children as a presidental candidate
  3. Telling people the economy is actually really good, when it clearly isn't
  4. Supporting campaigns like Trump's
  5. Pretending to care about things like health care, student debt, foreign wars, the housing crisis, then getting into office (with a majority), and doing jack-shit about them. Sometimes even exacerbating them

Those are all just to start

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The single state solution that the current admin supports is Genocide. Before that we had a confused old man withholding purchased weapons, building a pier to distribute aid, and swearing over the phone about the consequences of attacking Rafah. Anybody who advocates against the DNC because of Israel-Palestine conflict is beyond disingenuous, you should move that to the bottom of your list to at least have some semblance of credibility.

The DNC were surprised by the Trump candidacy and you say otherwise twice on your list.

Biden was good for the economy with workers rights, wages, and public investment all increasing dramatically.

Everything else you mentioned they try constantly but can't do much without 60 in the senate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The single state solution that the current admin supports is Genocide.

Yeah, I never said otherwise. I'm not sure what you mean by this, can you explain?

Before that we had a confused old man withholding purchased weapons, building a pier to distribute aid, and swearing over the phone about the consequences of attacking Rafah.

You mean the child-killing, rapist and genocidist? Yeah, I saw him make a token effort with the bridge, that didn't really help. I saw him make a few red-lines that were crossed, and his response was to send a buch more weapons to help out with the genocide.

Anybody who advocates against the DNC because of Israel-Palestine conflict is beyond disingenuous, you should move that to the bottom of your list to at least have some semblance of credibility.

I don't see how this follows. I can be against the DNC supporting a genocide, while also being against Trump for supporting a genocide. In fact, it's pretty easy to just universally be against genocide, no matter who is backing it.

The DNC were surprised by the Trump candidacy and you say otherwise twice on your list.

I never said they weren't supprised by it, I said they supported it, which they did. Clinton pushed for Trump because she thought it would be an easy win.

Biden was good for the economy with workers rights, wages, and public investment all increasing dramatically.

No he wasn't. He was good with making his rich friends richer, but housing, wages, education, medical-care, got worse. His economy was only good if you focus on the rich and ignored the working class and poor. He also shot-down the rail-workers strike when an actual pro-union president would have supported it.

Everything else you mentioned they try constantly but can't do much without 60 in the senate.

The Dems always say that they can't do anything, even with a majority, because the Republicans will block them. But once the Republicans have a majority, the Dems sure can't seem to block them back. So which is it? Does having a majority allow you to do what you want? or can you still be blocked? It's almost like politicians are liars, who are willing to sucker people in for votes, then toss them aside whenever it's convenient

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I never said otherwise. I’m not sure what you mean by this, can you explain?

The Biden Admin was not a single state advocate.

The Dems always say that they can’t do anything, even with a majority, because the Republicans will block them. But once the Republicans have a majority, the Dems sure can’t seem to block them back. So which is it?

The only noteworthy bill in recent memory was the budget bill which can be filibustered but doing so is purely symbolic as budget bills qualify for passing via house reconciliation. On top of that, I already mentioned even when caucusing independents and VP 50:50 tiebreaker let DNC pick majority leader they have been outnumbered in the senate for over a decade and counting. Are you referring to some other bill? Or are you just disingenuous full of shit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Biden Admin was not a single state advocate.

That's fair. It was a genocidist admin though, which is what people are mad about.

Are you referring to some other bill? Or are you just disingenuous full of shit?

Where was the dems proposed bill to fix our educational system so that it doesn't put students into debt? Where was the proposed bill to give health-care for everyone? Where was the proosed bill to fix our housing crisis? Where was the proposed bill to make the rich pay their fair share of taxes?

The Dems had the chance to propose these bills under both Biden and Obama, but they didn't. You miss every shot that you don't take.

Additionally, they could have used a bunch of executive orders to fix a lot of these issues, even if it was just nibbling around the edges, but chose not to. They were too busy funding wars, torture programs, and dropping bombs on kids to focus on helping out americans.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

H.R.4797 of 2021

S. 4897 of 2022

H.R. 2804 of 2018 and 2021

H.R. 6593 of 2024 <--- This one seeks to codify a program that already existed and already reduced millions of Americans debts to $0 monthly payments and greatly reduced others payments. The Biden admin as a whole forgave tens of billions of dollars of student debts and would have wiped them all out if not for conservative AGs fighting them in the courts.

S. 1220 of 2025

The list could go back decades if you really wanted it to. Every single one of the examples you chose there were bills introduced for. The DNC literally represents your exact views and you call them a piece of shit, this is why the country is the way it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

EDIT: The top of my comment here is flippant and low-effort. I can do better, but I'll leave this up for transparancy

And those didn't pass because.....? I'll leave that as an exercise in understanding gaslighting to the reader.

EDIT: Better response:
H.R. 4797 - Severly less than what I want, and never even got to a vote
S. 4897 - Looks like this got read twice, then abandoned
H.R. 2804 - Still far less than what I want, and never got to a vote
H.R. 6593 - far less than what I waned, far less than what he promised. Never went anywhere
S. 1220 - far less than what I wanted. Never went anywhere

Yet when it came to bombing innocent people, backing a genocide, cutting off the highly popular covid-aid programs, and a bunch of other stuff that I didn't want, they sure were able to get that done. Weird, how they were so busy doing what I didn't want, that they couldn't push through what I did want.

I admit that I stand corrected, and they did try a few bills that were almost what I wanted, they were obviously weak-effort attempts that went nowhere. But I think my ultimate point stands though: why should I be happy about that?
/end EDIT

Biden forgave tens of billions of dollars, but that is a far cry from what he promised, and what he promised is a far cry from actually solving the problem.

They Dems couldn't get these things done, but they sure were able to bomb the shit out of innocent people, fast-fund the border-wall, increase funding to the Pentagon, and bail out their rich friends.

The DNC literally represents your exact views and you call them a piece of shit, this is why the country is the way it is.

No, the DNC talks about these views, but when they have the chance, they never actually get them through