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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28249577

Top Trump official Stephen Miller's recent declaration that anyone who "preaches hate for America" will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump's platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller's is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I didn’t make the accusation.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But I def don't want to fall under the impression that you are arguing in bad-faith. Oh no, I’d never assume you’re arguing in bad faith. I mean, you, of all people, wouldn’t be the kind of guy who lurks in conservative spaces just to drop random shit posts and quietly giggle to yourself about “wasting their time.” That’d be petty and juvenile.

And that type of guy would be the type to hijack communities and turn them into meme dumps mocking the exact people they're supposed to represent. Or the type to proudly brag in other subs about how clever they are for doing it.

And that type of person would show up here just to stir shit and go full "Debate Club Captain" on every conservative post, demanding ten sources and a notarized affidavit for every opinion. Laughing again about how they're just stirring up shit because they don't like conservatives. Nah, I just can't see you doing that.

And getting banned for not being civil? That wouldn’t make you double down out of spite, no sir. You're clearly just a thoughtful, principled guy here to engage respectfully and support conservative causes. Totally.

I mean... right?

But are you saying you haven't seen examples of Lemmy calling people nazis? I just wanna be clear...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

And that type of person would show up here just to stir shit and go full "Debate Club Captain" on every conservative post, demanding ten sources and a notarized affidavit for every opinion. Laughing again about how they're just stirring up shit because they don't like conservatives. Nah, I just can't see you doing that.

I don’t think I’ve ever done that.

And that type of guy would be the type to hijack communities and turn them into meme dumps mocking the exact people they're supposed to represent. Or the type to proudly brag in other subs about how clever they are for doing it.

I definitely haven’t done this.

Edit:

And getting banned for not being civil? That wouldn’t make you double down out of spite, no sir. You're clearly just a thoughtful, principled guy here to engage respectfully and support conservative causes. Totally.

I’ve never been banned here for not being civil.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I don’t think I’ve ever done that.

Nah.. of course not!

I definitely haven’t done this.

Nah.. of course not! Because that would make you a total troll. And no way you would be a troll. You are a stand-up guy. You are helping the conservative cause! No way you would ever do that.

And hey, to be honest, I'm not very bright. So I'd probably never notice if ya did. I mean, come on, you know I'd totally fall for you saying stuff like, "do you have any proof?" or "anything to back that accusation up?" Or even "Hey my conservative community is a bastion of free speech and not just to mock conservatives!" I would read that and think to myself, "Yep, he's a stand-up guy and not arguing in bad faith."

So really, thank you for not taking advantage of my dullness. Thank you for not really just trying to be meta and out-troll a group of people you think are trolls. Thank you for not seeing conservatives as worthy of mocking just because you know, the democrats lost the easiest fucking election in the world against fucking Trump of all people!

I am glad you are not one of those folks. Thanks for being such a stand-up guy who's not so bitterly disappointed in the election results that he decides he is just gonna troll conservatives as much as he can. You know, just to have a little sense of control over the chaos.

Whew! Sooo glad you are not like that and that you are on our side!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You are welcome William F Buckley.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No problem. I knew you and I were just alike. And see there? You are even going all "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and mentioning my name in our conversation. How very Carnegie of you. Well it worked! I definitely trust you now!

And because I know you so well, I know you aren't saying that as a subtle call-out that ya think ya "know" who I really am. And by saying my name, you are just emphasizing it--ya know, a subtle shout-out to let me know ya got me all figured out. But how could ya dare accuse me of something?! Because then I'd ask for proof, then you would be in that whole hard place of accusing without proof. So saying my name is def not a wink-and-nod thinking that you are smarter than me.

Besides, as we both know, you wouldn't have to be so subtle about it. You are smarter than I am.

I would never figure out that you were trolling me; you are being so polite and respectful! Any wink-wink's you have, would totally go over my head anyway.

Come on, why would I even suspect that? I love that you are so honest and not arguing in bad faith. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don’t get it, have I done something to upset or hurt you?

I feel like this is probably the first time I’ve interacted with this account.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don’t get it, have I done something to upset or hurt you?

Not at all. I think we're friends and have the same goals. All good fun, mate!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You’re acting upset though so I’m just checking.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Anyways, I’ve got to get back to trying to find another liberal on this site and see if they’re calling people Nazis.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think you will have to look too long. I have so much faith in you!

And I gotta get back to posting more articles. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah you better.

Only ten posts and or comments a day isn’t very many.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That's very supportive coming from someone who posts and comments as much as you. Hopefully I can can catch up with you!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Some people just come to troll. Best not to feed them and let them die of starvation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

No I come here to make positively voted contributions.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Good point. And in my opinion, he's actually one of the biggest trolls on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It helps to have a nearly two year old account.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So I need a two-year old account to post as much as you do daily? Because I'm new to Lemmy, so I'm not aware of that guideline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh originally you said you’d like to catch up to how much I have posted or commented so I said it helps to have a two year old account I didn’t realize you meant a daily count I’m sorry.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 days ago

I can see how that was confusing for you.