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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Here's a screenshot of a skeet of a screenshot of a tweet featuring an unusually shit take on WW2 by Moldbug:

link

transcriptskeet by Joe Stieb: Another tweet that should have ended with the first sentence.

Also, I guess I'm a "World War Two enjoyer"

tweet by Curtis Yarvin: There is very very extensive evidence of the Holocaust.

Unfortunately for WW2 enjoyers, the US and England did not go to war to stop the Holocaust. They went to war to stop the Axis plan for world conquest.

There is no evidence of the Axis plan for world conquest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I’m a moderate Holocaust denier." —Curtis Yarvin

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

"I'm a colossal cunt who thinks being coy about holocaust denialism as just another potential grift" - The Yarvinator

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ironically many "WW2 enjoyers" are big fans of German hardware, uniforms and tactics...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The vibe I get is that by 'enjoyers' he means people who thought fighting the nazis in WW2 was morally justified.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh gosh I looked up the post and that was a mistake. Actually Mr. Yarvin there is quote tweeting someone who dared, on twitter, to say that the Holocaust was real. The replies (including Yarvin's) being about what you'd expect from twitter nowadays. So much Holocaust denial.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean, it's not like the holocaust acceptance in that thread is much better.

https://xcancel.com/x_apotheosis/status/1910766575923101837

transcriptThe fight is for the inheritance of Rome. The main players are the Anglos, Deutsch, and Russians. The Deutsch are the true heir and have the highest culture. The Anglos and Russians are usurpers.

The Holocaust cannot be taken out of context but must be understood as part of the conditions of total war and the spirit of the age. To this end we need to rethink the nature of morality and consider the true inevitability of tragedy.

The secular Jewish elites have aligned with the Anglos. The Orthodox Jewish elites have aligned with Moscow. The Deutsch have been left to the abyss.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so following this "logic", the problem for the "Deutsch" is that there is no flavor of Jews willing to "align" with them?

Whose fault is that, motherfuckers?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I'll just make a wild assumption that the author of that post is also a raging antisemite who thinks the jews control the world, so being jew-unaligned is probably a point of virtue in his book.

Also I bet the non-secular jews were in actuality not that crazy about Russia either and he just means judeobolshevism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

boys will be boys

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Unusually shit take on WW2 but not an unusually shit take from Moldbug. Just the usual level of shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think it's accurate that the US and England didn't join to stop the Holocaust. Sentence 3 is a little oversimplified, and sentence 4 is straight-up lunacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Old and busted: whitewashing hitlerism by pretending the holocaust didn't happen.

New hotness: pretending the holocaust just sort of happened one day, completely unrelated to the explicit ideology of the people who planned and executed it and the regime that sanctioned it, and anyway they had their hands full defending themselves against unprovoked attacks by the so-called allies, who can blame them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I checked the link, the thread elaborates a bit more:

to which my understanding is: this is absolutely true as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I found it too, it makes the point that Nazi Germany did nothing wrong in attcking other countries, stealing their products, and enslaving their people" is an argument Putin could have made.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, but you see the axis powers only ever wanted to conquer most of Europe, North Africa, a bunch of islands in the Pacific, most of Southeast Asia, Korea and large parts of mainland China, which the allies would have been completely fine with. Nothing suggests they would actually go for full conquest victory. What is a "Lebensraum"? Is it a type of cheese?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Now hang on how many of those conquests were for actual land grab reasons and how many were because they expected people to take issue with starting massive offensive wars for land grab reasons, especially what with the declared intent to ethnically cleanse at least all of Eastern Europe. That's definitely distinct from planning world conquest, right?