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Pastors and deacons are both member of the church, and arnt that far apart in rank
Sorry no, you are wrong. But that's understandable considering how actively ignorant atheists are about what actually happens in churches
My only question is why so fuckdamn many of you are ALSO so arrogant about it
Both are ordained ministers, the preist just leads the parish, and the deacon helps the preist lead a parish. Hierarchically they are adjacent. Why are you so confident of my religion?
Oh no, they mixed up pastor and priest, what a sin! Two words that are super alike and mean basically the same thing, damn them!
Deacons aren't pastors or priests, they are glorified ushers
They're still one level down the hierarchy, which was their point
Or are you being an idiot on purpose?
Um... do you imagine that churches are somehow run like the military, and that roles of service are badges of office?
Additionally, there was no 'down the hierarchy' point made, they just conflated the two roles, which is why I corrected them
Are you having a problem following this conversation? The 'Show Context' button can refresh your memory
Basically your side believes in 100 kinds of magic and fairy tales, at least in America the majority of self described Christians believe that the earth is less than 10k years old wished into being by what amounts to a prick of a genie and a non trivial minority of these folks believe the Earth is flat.
After spending their life talking to believers who might as well be actual adult Santa worshippers its easy to be both arrogant and a bit confused by the non imaginary part of the holy heirarchy.
Talking like someone who judges groups solely by the actions of loud extremists and oversimplifies anyhting they don't understand.
Every theist believes in a detailed fantasy world that would shame the imagination of the average schizophrenic.
The Reddit Atheists have entered the chat and are here to stay it seems
Religion is objectively stupid. We are just expected to pretend you all are reasonable because you are the majority.
Bro thinks I'm a Christian simply because I don't like Edgelords LARPing Atheism into a Religion.
Let's go back to where you believe decline in religion has led us to fascism when 70% of Christians voted for a fascist take over of our society and 90% of atheists voted against?
Are you going to pivot to the no true Scotsman fallacy or go somewhere else with it?
I don't recall ever saying that a decline in religion lead to any of that. Literally all I said was that Reddit Atheism is more "edgy and tryhard" than it is helpful, if you somehow got "Abandoning religion did this." from that, I don't know what to say.
I just don't think it's fair to say it's uniquely a Christian problem that lead to fascism taking over America, especially when there are tons of "New Atheists" who are down with Jordan Peterson and other pseudo-intellectuals offering "Trans bad, upvotes to the Left" disguised as "Totally getting it bro"
Are you saying "Edgelords LARPing Atheism into a Religion" implies that somehow? Because what I mean by that is the tendency for so-called "Reddit Atheists" to treat Atheism like a Dogmatic Religion..
Sorry I thought I was responding to the other guy up the comment chain
All is forgiven
Because everyone can tell you're deliberately getting hung up on a technical inaccuracy not relevant to the issue to derail the conversation.
I guess accuracy is only important in your opposition, gotcha
Don't let it ever be said that heathens aren't hypocritical as well
Things are important when they matter. What's keeping you from telling us why it matters in this instance? Cmon educate those heathens.
Sorry about not knowing the intricacies of your imaginary friend's club. BTW, claiming that your imaginary friend is the only one that's real is pretty arrogant too.
Ok then cite me my post where I claimed God was real.
I FUCKING DARE YOU
You can only win arguments when you fill your opposition's mouth with lies
First of all, calm down, you don't want to incur in the deadly sin of wrath and not get invited to the sleepover at your bestie's.
That's not how salvation works and even kids in sunday school know that...
Because literally none of us gives one damn shit what the difference between a deacon and a priest is. They're both trying to sell everyone the idea that they're magical friend in the sky wants all of us to obey a bunch of rules that were written almost two thousand years ago and contradict themselves constantly.
Some day when you grow up you are gonna cringe so hard over this post that I almost want to screencap it for when you eventually delete it
LoL, the arrogance of this comment is absolutely hilarious. I'm GenX. I've been through all of it with religion. The only cringe here is you.
Them: “I don’t care about your religion”
You: “Omg you’re gonna look sooooo stupid.”
If your only counter argument is a spongebob meme then maybe you want to think on what I said about maturity for a moment.
Aww who are we kidding, everyone knows you're a perpetual child
… SpongeBob?
It's so cute when they play stupid
I don’t think you’re playing at it, to be clear. You literally fabricated a SpongeBob reference so you could win an argument we weren’t even having.
Good job.
You have an imaginary friend, and you're trying to defend him on the internet...
I bet it would shock you to find out that the existence or lack thereof of an Abrahamic god is irrelevant to me.
Or, to use crayon terms: It really doesn't matter to how I live my life if He exists or not. I choose to live as if He does and it has benefited me immensely. If somehow direct material proof of the nonexistence of god appeared tomorrow, or even the opposite, I will still live my life as I have been.
My main point is that the abandonment of cultural sacredness is why we are descending into fascism right now and you whiny little ratheists are a big part of the reason
You really have no idea how many progressive Christians you piss off with your wide-assed brush you keep painting us with
I'm not shocked, because based on your posts, I have no reason to care what you think.
And yet you replied
You just like arguing, a shame you aren't very good at it
Well all you little bitches can just turn the other cheek.
Well you certainly saw what happens when they didn't turn up to vote. Congrats
Not Abrahamic, still imaginary. Still cringe.
The only thing 'cringe' here is you using cringe unironically post-COVID
No, imaginary friends are cringe, so that too.
Why do you think that is cringe? I wouldn't have thought so at 14 or at 44
I'm not religious, but it was cringe because they were reveling in thier ignorance right before paroting common online reductions of faith. "Obey your sky daddy's rules" and all that. Seems trite. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯