this post was submitted on 28 Mar 2025
2224 points (99.2% liked)

Technology

68130 readers
3545 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Going by their Mastodon account, seems they were erroneously detected as "from a US-sanctioned region" and it took too long for said error to be resolved, so they just made the switch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Given now that the US has a russian president, maybe the US should sanction itself lol

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"US sanctioned region" is russia. The developer team fully consist of russian citizens, some of them are still in russia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aren't they now based in Estonia since when the company was established?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

They can be de jure in Estonia and de facto wherever they want.

E.g OnlyOffice claim to be based in baltics too, but the development office is still in Nizhniy Novgorod(russia).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why aren't russian people allowed to upload code. Why does the US get to dictate everything

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Microsoft is a US based company. They cannot legally make business with sanctioned entities. And since it's not profitable for them - they just made a geoblock geoblock

Could MS ignore the sanctions in that case? probably

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The developer team fully consist of russian citizens

I dont think thats correct. Do you have a source? The predecessor that it was forked from maps.me maybe, but the current dev team has nothing to do with that project anymore.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I was wrong, not entirely, but 6-7 out of 10. Had to doublecheck. https://github.com/orgs/organicmaps/people

And there's a wiki page on maps.me(founders are the same, they just sold it and forked a few years later to create organicmaps) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maps.me

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The only person on this list that lives in Russia is Alexey Naumenko. So what are you yappin about? So far i also cant see that name on the new member list https://git.omaps.dev/org/organicmaps/members

mapsme: founded by Yury Melnichek, later joined by Alexander Borsuk and Viktor Govako

organicmaps: founded by Roman Tsisyk (completely unrelated to mapsme) and later joined by Alexander Borsuk and Viktor Govako

So the founders are not the same, but some devs from the old project joined organic maps.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not really nice of you to edit the message after it was replied to.

Changing your github profile location does not mean neither factual relocation, nor changing citizenship.

yappin

Just adding context, because thir wording makes everyone think like "out of the blue, by some stupid coincidence one of the developers possibly seemed to be somewhere around some misteruous sanctioned region"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not really nice of you to edit the message after it was replied to.

I didnt...

My last edit was at: Saturday, March 29th, 2025 at 9:34:06 AM GMT+01:00

Your comment was posted at: Saturday, March 29th, 2025 at 9:45:53 AM GMT+01:00

Changing your github profile location does not mean neither factual relocation, nor changing citizenship.

Then where are you getting 6-7 from? Those people could be Polish or Ukrainian or born somewhere completely different. They could have moved, changed citizenship, whatever. I dont know. You dont know.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Those people could be Polish or Ukrainian or born somewhere completely different

They have russian state-specific latin names transliterations Except for Roman Tsisyk, there's nothing specific in name.

But most probably the guy from moscow got caught with russian ip which busted the whole gh organization. I don't think gh has any other sanctioned regions users id methods

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Shit. I live in Denmark. How do you download a whole github repository, commits, issues and all?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

you can set up a repo mirror with forgejo

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You can make git clone and get all the code and commits. Issues are a GitHub feature and they cannot be downloaded by a simple git command

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can import it on an alternative like gitlab. The process of moving something from github to gitlab is just as smooth as if everything was contained in the repo itself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Personally, recommend forgejo, gitlab has a lot of features I didn't need and I found the upgrade process if you didn't keep on top of it annoying. Forgejo actions are pretty similar to github ones and setting up runners is super straightforward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good question. Commits are easy - they are part of git core functionalities so are included in every copy of the repository (for example developers' local copies) but github specific contents like comments, issues, PRs..?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This should also be part of git repo (but maybe not downloaded through typical git clone as it might be too large though). Has developers of git ever considered doing this?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

The original developer of Git is Linus Torvalds and he wrote it for the use of developing Linux. He handed off the project to Junio Hamano after a short while who still leads it. They use a process where you submit patches by mail, for Linux and for Git itself too.

To make this easier they have the commands git format-patch, git send-email and git applymbox later changed to git am to apply them. They also added git request-pull to generate a short plaintext email like message to request a pull.

The Pull Request as a bigger concept of data and discussion that should be kept around came from GitHub and was put over top of Git. The concept has been rebuilt by various competitors separately. But it doesn't match the Linux and Git development model so they never used GitHub Pull Request, even though there is a GitHub mirror of Linux and a GitHub mirror of Git. For them the discussions happens in the mailing list.

So it's very unlikely they would start including the stuff that was added by others over top, that they don't need.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

No, it they didn't change anything add new git remote to the new address