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Repeat after me …. The democratic party is funded by the same wall street military and prison industry profiteers that fund the republican party and they are fundamentally opposed to shifting policy to the left and adopting economic democracy to any extent in their platform to the point they would rather ensure a right wing candidate wins by sabotagingrg any popular pro workers rights candidate rather than nominate anyone left of their platform which makes american western neo liberal democracy a defacto class dictatorship!
Whew! I followed you though. There are other factors as well I'm sure, but yeah, those are some of them, and big ones too. Greed sure does become complicated over time. Institutions are built on it. It was a bit hard to get past the arrogant-sounding "Repeat after me" but I'm glad I kept going.
I noticed you conveniently left out " Christian nationalists" from your list of people funding political parties. Why is that?
Bro i was born and raised to be an evangelical nut job so you don't have to project your qualms with white Christian nationalism on me.
Those with capital who are in control of our political system are first and foremost fascists. They don't care about christianity so much as it serves them as a tool to manipulate those dumb enough to buy into it. The whole perpetuating industrialized genocide to make a profit selling military ordinance and keep humanity under the boot of endless militarism is more dangerous than religion. Intertwining the two is a recipe for disaster but the main danger here are the war mongering billionaires not whatever imaginary friend they use to peddle bigoted hate and idiocy onto the masses
My point is only one party accepts money from them. One party wants fascism. The other wants oligarchical capitalism.
Hate both, don't conflate both.
Oligarchal capitalism is fascism. Fascism js essentially the combination of corporste power and government or corporatism. The democrats are fascist lite but still fascist. They took their marching orders from the same billionaires and got us to the precipice of where we are now. They have no remorse and just continue to make excuses. Read the writing on the wall ffs.
No, it really isn't though.
https://www.openculture.com/2024/11/umberto-ecos-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html
They both suck, but let's be clear about why they suck. Oligarch capitalism sucks because of wealth disparity and financial oppression.
Fascism sucks because of the punishing of "out" groups and strict social control. And also wealth disparity and financial oppression.
Capitalists don't care if you're gay or black as long as you have money.
Democrats were all in on the immigrant/crime panic and supported the violent squashing of protests against their genocide. To act like they aren't also guilty of "punishing of out group and strict social control" is just apologia.
I don't see the point of yourblast paragraph...do you believe capitalism is just voluntary exchange and that's the only way wealth transfer happens? They want your money and they will take it any way they can. Fascism is a form of capitalism...
US capitalists certainly do. I don't know how many more examples it will take for gringos to stop going on about how "this isn't America" like bro that's ALL it's ever been. I can't point to a single time in US history that there haven't at least three ethnic groups persecuted and disenfranchised, and that's without even mentioning the violent political persecution.
If it always pushes racist war criminals to the top, that's what your society was built to do. You don't get a hundred thousand sausages and say "man, we gotta put different meat in, we can't seem to get the machine to make any burgers" like, please look at the fucking mechanisms.
I know the 14 traits of fascism well. And they are present in both parties to varying extents. Democrats still support the war on drugs 100% which is a defacto fascist attack on minorities and lower socio economic classes who are shipped out to corporate owned for profit correctional centers so tax dollars can be siphoned for their profits while also profiting off of legally permissible slavery. Democrats are fascists with a smiley face mask waving a pride flag and blm slogans. They are inherently anti worker and pro corporate power protection. Engaging in identity politics while chastising and belittling working class solidarity and class consciousness is a fascist plan of attack through division.
Ok yeah. But not voting still enables the fascist. You can still vote for harm reduction, then protest/riot for progress.
We can agree that our entire political system has been corrupted by money? Right?
What makes people naively believe that our electoral processes have not been corrupted in the same exact way? Some delusional belief in American democratic exceptionalism?
In germany their highest court decided that electronic voting is unconstitutional because it is impossible to differentiate between fraudulent results and legitimate ones for laypeople/anyone who isnt a cybersecurity or IT expert.
Both parties are fascist albeit to differing degrees but both parties blatantly exhibit 13 of 14 traits of fascist regimes. The one trait they can claim plausible deniability in regards to is fraudulent elections. But if our corporate owned leaders have allowed our society to disintegrate to fascism 93% of the way then its pretty illogical to believe they would stop short and work diligently to prevent the last 7% from reaching that point.
There is the Princeton study done within the lasy 2 decades that concluded the amount of influence one has on our political system and any legislated policy is directly proportional to the amount of wealth you have with regular working class people having a statistically near zero irrelevant amount of influence on any policy regardless of how popular or unpopular it may be. Since lewis f powell’s pro corporate supreme court decisions paved the way for citizens united and the erosion of our constitutional republic and its comprising democratic elements it has now become apparent for anyone paying attention that every aspect of our political system is for sale to the highest bidder and most likely the reality is that our presidential elections are rigged and have been since at least reagan. But even before then there was likely corruption involved since it is pretty much a historical fact that jfk won the presidency in no small part due to a backroom deal his father made with the mafia because of the connections he had made during his time establishing a bootleging empire during prohibition.
Ok. But the Dems and Republicans aren't the same. Like I agree with you that our system is beyond fucked, but that doesn't mean both of our shitty parties are equally shitty. If you want to pretend like the Obama or Biden administrations were the same as the Trump administration you just as much in a fantasy as someone who thinks the Democrats are actually competent and well-meaning.
Like shit, I'm not pretending like voting is the be-all end-all of civic action: FAR from it. That's why voting, at best, is harm reduction. But fuck, it's so goddamn easy, and why would we want to ceade ground for no reason?
They only differ in rhetoric. Deportations exploded under Obama and were higher than Trump's first term. Drone strikes skyrocketed. Biden approved record breaking amounts of money to Israel so they could fund a genocide they were proudly broadcasting. Obama's cabinet was filled with Wall Street execs right as it became clear that they'd knowingly crashed the global economy to make a quick buck and then gave them money to buy the assets of the people they fucked in the first place.
If you still believe in democrats, you're not engaging in politics, you're engaging in a cult.
The dems only pretend to be different. They don't have to be the same if the financial entities who fund control and dictate their decisions and actions are the dame financial interests behind the republican party.
Look ip the ratchet effect. Basically when the Republican party is in power things move as dar to the left as possible then when dems are in they pretend to tru to push progress to the left but the mechanism just ratchets back without moving anything meaningful to the left then the right comes back in and boom more progress to the left.
Whag did democracy just do this last election cycle? They ignored constituents and refused to move any policy to the left and instead courted “moderate republicans” and touted endorsments from liz cheney joe walsh and other past republican leaders as wins? The Democratic party is not a left party they are a neo liberal right wing party. They are the other wing on the same bird and that bird is shitting all over you.