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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    the penguin migration was going just fine, until nvidia 570.124.04 dropped, which is when the misery started. :|

    Got to check if I can roll back to earlier version.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I'm currently on that version. May I ask what happened or what should I expect?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    rtx3090, 5800x3d, wayland, sddm, kde:

    • whole system freezes on boot (with somewhat garbled display) when display manager starts (sddm) - IF >1 displays are plugged in/powered on.
    • no issues if sddm starts with one display, and THEN powering up second. - But this has to be done while in sddm, before logging in.
    • whole system can (with high chance) freeze again on desktop if at any point a screens are connected/disconnected
    • krunner works exactly once, after that it logs errors in journal that some display reference is wrong (the exact wording escapes me atm)

    all these things were fine with 570.86.something - the previous version, which apparently was beta.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    This is the main barrier for me (other one is migrating a janky access database). I really don't want to spend my 2 hours free time an evening troubleshooting Nvidia driver issues (4800S series).

    Anyone with this card have an experience to share?

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Linux is super reliable, and unless you use cutting edge distro, it's pretty rare than anything breaks. Even Fedora is pretty stable from experience

    The only true problems I ever had (and still has), were with Nvidia. And switching distros ain't saving you. Linux mint? Breaks on suspend. Nobara? Memory leak. Trying newer versions to see if it fixes it? Where's my bootloader...

    I do understand that laptop RTX 3070 are not common, but still. I just want it to work, and have cuda on it. Is that too much to ask?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Nobara memory leak? I've been using Nobara for a year and a half and have never heard of this.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    It also happens on fedora but to a lesser extent (somehow). It's all hidden under the Wayland session process

    It's always when I'm using my dedicated GPU, so I guess it's the driver being fucky.

    I have an oddball graphic card so might happen only on it

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    I'm running a 7800XT, FWIW.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    Linux is super reliable

    It depends on what you want to do with it, which version of which component you run and a couple of other things. In my own experience, if you want a "super reliable" system, get OpenBSD. Linux has a severe lack of QA, mainly because of its decoupled nature.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    unless you use cutting edge distro

    yea well, "arch btw". Haven't had issues really, been running it for years on other systems but my gaming pc with nvidia is the only one with issues... because of course it does. :D

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Never had an issue with Nvidia. But then I'm using an Ubuntu distro because I just want my computer to work and I don't care about bleeding edge / rolling distros.

    And I will move to Wayland in a few years when all the issues are sorted out, which I suspect is part of people's problems.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

    I use downgrade.

    e.g.

    downgrade nvidia-dkms lib32-nvidia-utils nvidia-settings nvidia-utils
    
    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Of course. Mileage may vary. On some systems it may always work, on others it's "what's broken this week".

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    word. some devices just have angry machine spirits which just can't be pleased.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Have you tried feeding them your youngest children?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    haven't forked, no children. will neighbour's do?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    Good idea. Try and report back. If it does not work, sorry!