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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

    Linux mint and pop os are winner so far

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    I tried Linux Mint, and enjoyed my experience and even setup everything and then when I booted up Factorio Steam didn't use my 3080 somehow. Pop OS worked but I didn't like the experience. I'll have to give Linux Mint a shot again.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    That is almost certainly because Factorio has a native Linux version and Steam installed that instead of the Windows version. It was trying to use OpenGL and defaulting to CPU rendering because you likely haven't altered the default configuration.

    If you force Steam to use steam play, it will download the Windows version and run it through Proton which will use the right hardware.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    I’m confused. Shouldn’t me downloading the native Linux factorio and native Linux Steam be enough? Why would it default to something else?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

    It is enough, provided that you have your system configured correctly. Which, in this case, is designating a graphics card to use. Without that it defaults to using CPU rendering.

    Most people don't want to deal with the headache of configuring their systems and would rather use something more automatic.

    That's what Proton does for you. If you're using Proton then it can assumed that you're gaming and so defaults can be set to support that.

    Whereas people use Vulkan for many different projects and so it chooses safe defaults and depends on further configuration by the user (which Proton does for you).

    Native Linux games work just fine (I play native Rimworld every week or so), you just have to configure your system manually.

    Or just use the preferred method of running Windows games via Proton. You're going to be doing it anyway in order to game on Linux and so it is often more work to run the native version than it is to run the Windows version and let Proton handle the automatic configuration.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    I've not played Factorio but I've seen a vidjeo about it. How is the Windows version on Proton better than a Linux native version?

    Wouldn't the correct answer be to fix the graphics driver or configuration? And why doesn't OpenGL just work? Or better yet, Vulkan?

    It's this nonsense that keeps people locked in to Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

    Running the native version requires the user to configure their system correctly and then it would work. Most people who are coming to Linux from Windows are not interested in editing config files or using the terminal and, in any case, the vast majority of Linux gaming is done by running Windows games via WINE.

    Proton is WINE packaged with the software and configuration scripts so that it 'just works' without user intervention. If you're on Linux, you can install Steam and Go to Settings -> Compatibility and check 'Allow Steam Play for all other titles' and, from that point on, it will install the Windows version of the game and run it with Proton with no user interaction (other than clicking 'Play').

    It’s this nonsense that keeps people locked in to Windows.

    It isn't nonsense, it makes perfect sense.

    You can follow the error messages (which it prints to stdout when the game launches) and determine what the problem is so that you can fix it. The problem is completely understandable, the game logs would show exactly what device it was using and you could see what piece of software is responsible and go and look at the online documentation for that project to determine the exact configuration change that you need to make.

    That's how you should be troubleshooting problems, but you can't do that on Windows because everything is a black box and provides little to no logs. If you're lucky you'll get an error message.

    If you have a problem on Windows you first reboot and pray. Or, if that doesn't fix it, you search random social media or forum posts, apply arbitrary registry changes recommended by Reddit comments, upgrade drivers, downgrade drivers, install motherboard firmware and dig through the various Windows GUI menus, which are change completely between Windows 8, 10 and 11 (but not 9, which doesn't exist for some arbitrary reason), to locate a switch or checkbox that you can flip (and reboot again) until finally the problem resolves itself seemingly on its own. To me, this is the nonsense.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    I swapped from Windows 10 specifically because I didn't want to be in the Windows 11 and forward environment. (I use Arch btw)

    I really don't regret it, the set up was really painful but once that was done, the KDE had so many good features that I immediately felt at home. I'm floored by how good Proton/Steam is at handling games, I don't think I've had to skip on any game due to my OS (so far).

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    I'm on good ol' Arch Linux with plasma KDE

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    You're a better man than I. I just dipped my toes in Arch by going with CachyOS.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    Hey chad, I hadn't heard of CachyOS until you brought it up, good on you for finding an OS that matches your needs and going for it

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

    It tweaked my interest when the forums said steam works great with it. And it does! Been playing RDR2 on it and my laptop only has the built-in graphics chip.

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