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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (76 children)

They need to announce the formation of a new party

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (54 children)

That would guarantee more Republican wins

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd have agreed with you pre-2025. But I could see it now. The Dems have been letting us down over and over again. We need a party that cuts out billionaire money and promises to enforce the same on all politicians once they take power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It could still be something like 40% third party 15% democrats and 45% republicans, unless Republicans split as well, a third party can only make the "left" weaker.

We see it in Europe in countries where the left parties refuse to create alliances for ideological reasons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago

It's actually exactly how the Weimar Republic fell giving rise to the Nazis. The right was united enough to form a government after the splintered left and center failed multiple times consecutively.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago

Either that it would result in the Democratic party collapsing entirely, why would anyone vote for it if there was a better alternative available? You might see the Republicans win an election or two but that happens anyways

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The problem is, it is very hard to win elections without money. So a party that cuts out billionaire spending is less likely to win while also splitting the dem vote.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

The Democrats wanted to tax the rich and they still got way more donations than Trump, but all of that pales in comparison to buying out Twitter.

You don't have to be poor to see that Republicans are a threat to us all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democrats outraised trump and still lost.

You need to not tell your voters to fuck off if you can imagine that.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.

Elon literally bought votes but you don’t count that when you say “outraised Trump”.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.

I know! Maybe if they abandon everyone that you don't care about and focus only on the bot farms and billionaires that you do care about, they'll win!

Democrats can't keep moving to the right like you want them to. They hit a wall. They peeled off none of the republican votes you envy. But they got to throw people you hate under the bus, so it's good for you.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They’ve literally won the majority of elections since the 90s by appealing to moderates. They lost in 2024 because Russia had a war at stake and billionaires didn’t want to get taxed. Add in inflation from the pandemic and you have a tough campaign to win.

The argument that democrats can’t win without the left is not based on reality.

Dems tried to appeal to leftist and they screeched “genicide Joe” until Trump won.

Meanwhile republicans won because voters to the right of leftist know the importance of not shitting on the candidate they want to win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Dems tried to appeal to leftist

That's a bit of a fib, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 18 hours ago

Not even a little

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Splitting the dem vote implies that Democrats are entitled to all votes, not Republican. They have never done anything to earn mine. And after lurching far to the right, like they did this last election, I can't see how anyone thinks that they have earned their vote.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Then you will get more Trump and the GOP and fascism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doing things your way did just that.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dems have won the majority of elections since the 90s. Biden/Harris lost because of inflation.

Republicans lost by waaay more in 2020. If they followed your mentality they would’ve lost in 2024. Instead they doubled down and won.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democrats did what you wanted in 2016 and 2024 and lost. But at least you didn't have to move to the left.

You prefer trump to moving to the left.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Leftists aren’t winning elections.

Dems tried to cater to leftists in 2016 and 2024 and lost as a result.

The majority of Americans don’t want leftist politicians as we can see with election results.

Leftists are forcing Dems to the right by giving the elections to Trump

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Leftists aren’t winning elections.

Leftists aren’t winning "primaries."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Have to get through what democrats have the gall to refer to as primaries first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

India Walton, Nina Turner?

Won the primary. Lost the election.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The DNC gave us Trump and fascism.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Na. That was fake leftists screeching “genicide Joe” and claiming both sides are the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

In case you didn't know leftists are not Democrats, Democrats are closer in policy to Republicans than leftists are Democrats. Your party hosted more cops, zionists, and Republicans onto their convention stage than they did progressives. They cuddled up with right wing war criminals, and tried to out Republican Republicans. Your party did this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Left and right is a spectrum of ideology.

In the US that spectrum doesn’t exist to the left of democrats. It ends at democrats.

Those cops, zionists and republicans are also a part of our democracy and they have a vote. Leftists consistently lose elections for not considering this.

Democrats tried to be less moderate in 2016 and 2024 and lost because of it. Which is expected because leftists can’t win elections.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

They lost in 2016 and 2024 because they abandoned their base in an effort to lurch right.

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