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‘My ultimate and absolute revenge’: Trump gives chilling CPAC speech on presidential agenda
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Stop equivocating. There's no tomorrow after this. Short sighted. I'm starting to despise people like you as we get closer to the election. And before you try to debate me, THIS POST IS A FORUM ABOUT THE THREAT OF A TRUMP VICTORY. No response of yours refutes the fact you're steering the conversation. You're working toward a Trump victory no matter what you claim your motivation for your comment.
I'm not equivocating. I'm saying if the situation is this dire then surely cutting off arms supply to Israel is a fucking bargain isn't it?
It's time to compromise with leftists and progressives. If you won't do it now when "there's no tomorrow after this" then you never will. Make a choice.
Removed, rule 3, civility.
Are leftists a minor wing that's too small to be compromised with? Because if so it's impossible for us to hold democracy hostage. Moderates are the majority voting bloc. They bear the lions share of the responsibility for any outcome. They elected Joe Biden in the primaries, they're responsible for how he does in the general elections.
Seriously. Purported progressives acting like domestic terrorists thinking they're better than hippie anti vaxer moms showing up at the same rallies as nazis. I'm a fucking actual progressive. That's why I'm compromising with Biden to keep us on oxygen. I can't stand these fucking imbeciles..
Sounds like you'd rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists.
I think Biden makes compromises. That's the leftists argument against him. But here he's probably weighing the cost of pissing off a Jewish block of support and leftists.
I also doubt it's much of a choice. The leftist won't support him regardless because he's not bernie sanders.
You think Joe Biden won the 2020 general election without the help of leftists and progressives?
yes, even a so-called third party has a remote chance.
what is Jill Stein polling right now? or Cornel West?
none of this has any bearing on whether so-called third party candidates have a remote chance.
https://www.covers.com/politics/us-election-betting-odds
looks to me like they have a remote chance. like 1 to 50,000
ROFL! Thanks for proving my point!
i thought you said they don't have a remote chance.
no, i'm going to use it.
it will be counted just like every other vote.
democracy means people get to choose how they vote.
i wasn't duped at all. you said they didn't have a remote chance (or implied it by way of a rhetorical question), and i disproved that.
anyone can see exactly what happened here.
you're characterization of my response as petty or semantic is really a "you" problem. i said what i wanted to say, and i was right the whole time.
If that’s what makes you fell better about things.
voting for fascists won't keep your freedom safe
biden literally wrote the 1994 crimebill and the usa patriot act. he is no friend of freedom
He's not wrong. In response to the first attack on the World Trade Center, Biden assisted in creating the bill that would be dusted off and implemented following 9/11 as the Patriot Act.
Biden not only owns his involvement, he has been proud of it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Counterterrorism_Act_of_1995
https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-september-11-patriot-act/
If you take the Patriot Act as being anti-freedom, as many people do, then yeah, I could see saying Biden is no friend of freedom.
It's an overly simplistic read, but it's not way off base. ;)
Shut the fuck up about the Jews. Every American Jew I know hates what's happening in Gaza and wants it to stop now. You're talking to one. Stop reading fucking headlines. You sound like a right winger. Want to rub my horns to find the space lasers?
“Want to rub my horns to find the space lasers? “
Pretty sure there’s an OF niche market for that.
Are you under the impression Biden won the 2020 general election without the help of progressives and leftists?
So you are aware progressives and leftists compromised and voted for Biden in the 2020 general election.
Surely that means it's time for moderates and Biden to compromise yes?
Nah don't end the conversation now buddy. Democracy is about compromise right? I gave you an example of leftists and progressives compromising now surely these moderates compromised somewhere right? It's not like the majority voting bloc would be so selfish and stupid as to risk losing democracy rather than give up anything? Right? Right?