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Wild how many people preach from their high horse every time a non-western country does this, as if there aren’t western backdoors built into all of these.
I’m against all government backdoors and spying efforts, but let’s not pretend they’re attempting anything the west has not already successfully done. There’s definitely an air of racism to the double standard.
What backdoors are pre installed on western phones? I'm talking actual backdoors on the device itself. I feel researches would have already found and altered to some very publicly.
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/spy-agency-ducks-questions-about-back-doors-in-tech-products-idUSKBN27D1DO/
Not only do the feds force companies to install backdoors into the OS, but they also have backdoors built into the processors and communications networks.
https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/five-things-to-know-about-nsa-mass-surveillance-and-the-coming-fight-in-congress
https://www.fudzilla.com/news/pc-hardware/32097-expert-claims-nsa-has-backdoors-in-intel-amd-processors
These are neither confirmed, nor have ever been proven, and don't deal with phones.
The first link is about networking hardware, which has already been found by security researchers long ago.
The second is about an attempt at doing something like a backdoor that never came to fruition.
The last link has never been observed or proven, and how it would work is impossible to know. Having a "backdoor" on a CPU is meaningless without the other attached hardware to work with. Some would say impossible, and made up.
So you don’t believe anything that’s been leaked by whistleblowers? You think the Snowden stuff is all fake?
Depending a lie with whataboutism is a bad look.
Why not just admit you don't know, but enjoy being paranoid and conspiratorial in this space?
What lie? What “whataboutism”? The person tried to deny there’s any surveillance built into western technologies, and I gave a prominent example to prove them wrong. That’s not what “whataboutism” means.
Weird move for y’all to burn your astroturf accounts gaslighting people about what we’ve all personally witnessed from whistleblowers. You really expect that to work?
Once: apparently the number of times someone has said “I enjoy being paranoid“
The NSA activities Snowden leaked were specifically happening in data and telecom centers to snoop traffic in transit. He make known some secret programs about exploiting and compromising devices, but of that's already known as a possibility. He never detailed anything about backdoors on phones from manufacturers as you've suggested.
Right, the Snowden leaks did not include phone backdoors. Just everything else you denied.
Lol I'm not denying anything but your misguided comment. It's not accurate.
It’s 100% accurate.
Cool, then proof.
https://theweek.com/articles/453690/how-nsa-gets-unrestricted-access-iphone
Where are we moving the goalposts to now?
So, not a backdoor?
Again-and maybe you don't know what a backdoor is exactly-this is not from the manufacturer as you've claimed. This is Dropoutjeep, a long-patched vulnerability that was exploited to install a backdoor.
Your original comment is about manufacturers installing backdoors, and this is not that. This is also decade old news.
No goalpost has been been moved here, you haven't even left the endzone yet with your claims.
Direct quote from you: "as if there aren’t western backdoors built into all of these."
And again, to date, this has not been the case. No manufacturer has been building backdoors into devices. Other hackers finding exploits and continuing to exploit them on behalf of governments is not the same thing. It's detectable, it's measurable, and it only works on small groups of devices, not an entire population.
Want something more recent?
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/spy-agency-ducks-questions-about-back-doors-in-tech-products-idUSKBN27D1DO/
https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/07/the-30-year-old-internet-backdoor-law-that-came-back-to-bite/
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a34533340/nsa-tech-back-doors-software/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2020/10/12/united-states-six-other-nations-ask-tech-companies-to-build-backdoors-to-encrypted-communications/
Supply chain interdiction isn’t anything new, but they also have ramped up efforts to force manufacturer/vendor cooperation.
https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/nsa-reportedly-adds-backdoors-to-us-made-routers
You keep sending these, and they have nothing to do with what you're claiming at all. Just stop lol
Way to out your astroturf account. Anyone reading this far is going to click at least one of those links, so I’m not really sure how effective you think denial is going to be.
Lol what are you even talking about? No edits have been to any of my comments. You're just insane, friend.
Who said anything about edits? Bot’s broke.