From https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1881058085764309248
Previously :
From https://www.reddit.com/r/GenUsa/s/IgOY1mDwur
Yeah, i know that it's the same D.Trump that wanted to ban Tiktok in 2020.
Now, he also apparently played a major role in ending the israeli genocide(, « Which would mean that everyone who said a Trump win will make things worse for Gaza was objectively wrong, and that Biden-Harris were undeniably the greater evil. »).
Thoughts ?
Adelson paid $20 million in exchange for moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem last cycle. His window, a megadonor for settlement development in the West Bank donated 100m to Trump with her stated goals being Israeli annexation of the West Bank and a U.S. recognition of Israeli sovereignty in all the regions of the land. Trumps #1 donor above Musk.
This was part of the deal that stopped the right wing factions in the Israeli govt from blocking the ceasefire. Are they the worse of two evils? Or is the fact that you're aligned with them escaping you?
you seem to be fixed on the fact that isreal is going to annex the gaza strip (and eventually the west bank, golan heights, and chunks of syria as well) as if that wasn't already a going to happen under any president; empires expand and the american empire's newest colonial settler project in isreal is exactly that.
The idea that Israel’s annexation of Gaza, the West Bank, and beyond is inevitable under any U.S. president ignores how deeply American policy shapes these outcomes. Empires do not expand in isolation because they rely on enablers to fuel their ambitions. Trump gave Israel everything it needed to push expansion forward by recognizing contested territories and legitimizing land grabs. Other administrations, while imperfect, at least made some effort to slow the process. American support through military aid, diplomatic shielding, and economic backing is not guaranteed and can shift with leadership and public pressure. History proves that empires can be stopped when expansion becomes too costly. Calling annexation inevitable is a lazy shrug at injustice, not a serious analysis of power and its limits.
I don't know if this a lib with his mind melting over Trump or if the username should be glasGLOW, but either way, if your point is "Wow, but Trump is a sack of shit" then we are in agreement. While I can accept that Trump is a sack of shit who is also capable of stumbling, at times, into doing the right thing, it seems you are just hyper-fixating on the (yes, bad) things and ignoring or calling psyops not-bad things.
It's not November. Please for the love of whatever you find holy and good, stop trying to convince people that Biden wasn't a full and total fuckup. Objectively a worse president than Trump... so far. When that changes, then I will also acknowledge that. Because I'm following facts.
Btw, the suggestion that I am aligned with Trump is... wew. Hopefully I can petition for you to be my witness at a possible future trial for "traitors of America." You can tell the tribunal how much I love Trump.
By the way, if you think Biden wasn't also just letting Israel do whatever the fuck they wanted, you've been sleeping for 15 months. Biden has been going "No, please, stop... no... please... I can't do anything..." the whole fucking time. They're both pieces of shit. The only difference is people demanded Biden force Israel to stop murdering and he refused. Trump made it stop for now. That's just factual. Why he did it, what he's going to do, well, we'll see.
I can guarantee one thing though. Biden sure as shit was going to concede to Israel on taking the West Bank and/or Gaza as well. And had Biden actually restrained Israel he (Kamala anyway) probably wouldn't have lost. Had he actually cut them off in Nov 2023 and forced a ceasefire and peace over a year ago, well, it doesn't matter because he didn't. Everything Trump did term one, Biden continued.
There's no psyop happening. You also didn't address the actual main point which is Biden's rotting corpse listening Lex Luther over at the ADL and banning the #1 social media app in the US. What a magnificent fucking blunder that was. Also totally predictable that Trump, who can room read, would immediately jump on that freebie from Biden. But I guess Biden being a fullblown dipshit is a psyop. Fuck, I forgot!
Not a lib, market-anarchist.
You are putting a lot of effort into deflecting from Trump’s openly transactional politics. I never claimed Biden was not complicit or a failure. He absolutely is. However, it is nonsense to suggest that Trump’s actions were accidental steps toward doing the right thing. Or that objectively he was the worse choice for Palestine. His decisions were driven by donor influence and political deals that empower some of the most extreme factions in Israeli politics. If you are genuinely following facts, you should acknowledge that Trump did not stop the genocide out of any moral principle or giving the people what they want. He paused violence in a particular area to gain leverage for his donors and personal agenda. Trump is clearly worse because he deliberately emboldened far-right factions in Israel, openly traded policy for donor cash, and encouraged the annexation of Palestinian territories. Biden’s failures are rooted in negligence and complicity, but Trump’s actions were calculated steps that further the erasure of Palestine. Recognizing this does not absolve Biden but highlights how Trump actively made the situation worse - like everyone not victim to these psyops could see.
Why did Adelson give Trump $100m if there was literally no difference? You lack nuance, blinded by propaganda.
Oh, so a lib
Still no.
Despite your ostenibly pro-Falastini stance, you share this concept of "Trump exceptionalism", where you assume that, compared to previous presidents, Trump is the worst in regards to foreign policy, especially on Falastin, and thus this justifies voting for literally anyone, even a ghoul like Biden that has sent arms to {the Zionist project}, and at the near end of his term, sent $8 billion weapon sales to a settler-colonial genocide state (Only to be beaten by his previous August 2024 deal.)
Compared to what, there was an agreement that $3.8 billion annually for 2019 to 2028, by Trump's admin
(you may call me pro-Trump for this, but I'll call you a Starmerite for that)
As Biden did this, when he not only give the greenlight for the Gazan massacres but let {the Zionist project} do a land grab of Lebanon and then Syria (ok this is unsanctioned), beyond the Golan Heights.
Now, for sure, Trump is indeed transactional, and I'd suppose a wild card. I'll give you that. However, Biden, to me, is a captain that goes down with his ship, even if its a sinking shit ship
Response to your other post
You mean recognizing the territories also de jure. Regardless of whether it's de jure, it's de facto, due to {the zionist project} occupying and causing such mess.
Now, as for UNRWA, yes, I do feel sad for sure it happened under Trump's watch, Biden did refund in 2021, however, he reversed this shit and barred the funding in March 23 2024 (because one can claim "Hamas" and all will be understood), which will only open up in March 2025
Well, that wasn't good in 2016-2020, I'll tell ye that.
(Eh, yob tvoyu mat, Starmerite)
Pro-Israel support I guess...
Go further? As if they've not burnt olive trees since Oct 2023 and have the support of the collaborator PA authority?
nothing new
But ofc, these 'moderate voices' of Trump and Ben didn't reach Gvir nor Smotrich
As much as Dumpf and Ben may feel satisfied they've closed a whirlpool in this compromise by focusing more on the West Bank, Smotrich and Gvir are not exactly happy, and they're not alone in this.
Ofc, typical American shithead
He was given assurances, indeed, but instead he was also left blueballed by the fact that the ceasefire happened under Trump's influence
Fuck Starmer
Don't disagree with you hugely on most points, but you can always go further, and Trump has given every indication he plans to do that. Can't compare weapon sales between administrations devoid of the context should be your first hint of bias.
Biden was a zionist at heart, but Kamala would've had internal polling to tell her to stay the course, she wasn't brazenly immune from public pressure which would've provided at least had some safeguards. The mask-off wildcard is never gonna be the better option.
Ofc, tovarshi
Elaborate? CBS and PBS are American news sites that I don't know of any bias.
Devoid of the context? Is this the part where you tell me about the ~~genocide~~ war on Gaza?
Really? Ofc, I should prolly be swallowing my regrets on the mask-off wildcard, but just a side note: Kamala doesn't have that sort of internal polling, let alone the ability to read da room
She answers like one of those UKKK politicians that tries to dodge the TERF issue.
The context where Oct 7 happened so of course there'd be more weapon sales than the previous period. You don't know what Trump would've done in that situation, but if you think it's not sell a bunch of weapons to Israel I've got a bridge to sell you.
This is why they call you liberal zionist, huh
Again, I've recognized you not as a Starmerite, but you insist on calling me a Trumpite dumbass (ah well, like you ppl might say, dinnae cannae fash yersel that)
You know, when Oct. 7 hit, I thought a few thousand like 5,000 Gazans (fighter or civilian) would just die, maybe just 10,000.
But instead of leaving it like an 2021 clash, which would be still lopsided in Israel's backside, Biden essentially backed an East Timor-sized genocide
And if you're wondering why it hasn't went higher than 40,000+, according to the Gazan Health Ministry, you can't record when your demographics and infrastructure are being saturation-bombed
If Biden didn't want to lose, he should've HEAVILY pressured Israel, like Reagan, mid war in late 2023, if not early 2024,
At this point, hypothesize whatever you want (like, idk, getting fucked by Starmer), and Idc for the irony of the quote I'm gonna copy and paste (I suppose you'll indicate I'm anti-semitic, due to me being anti-zionist)
End of story.
You only thought a few thouand would die? No I thought hundreds of thousands. Or, knew, rather. I didn't know there was an estimate outside the 40k figure so thanks for confirming. This would've happened whether it was Biden in or any of the recent previous presidents.
I didn't call you a Trump supporter at any point, you have repeatedly claimed I support Starmer despite the start of this conversation where I defined my political leanings.
I am anti-zionist, your quote doesn't make sense. My reasons are perfectly rational. I don't fall silent or bend the knee.
Every day Trump's actions will show what I've said is true.