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I just don't understand the US and the 2nd. You're not allowed to have a lot of various weapons and it just states that people can be "armed", which could mean a lot of things. And even then, having a gun stored away safely is absolutely not infringing on that right either, as long as you have access to it. This is just obsessive gun fetishism and it constantly gets people killed, including little kids.
Just look at it through the lens of "would this increase or decrease the profits of the gun lobby?" and everything falls into place.
Eh, if my in-laws hadn't bought me a gun safe before my daughter was born, I probably would have given up my guns, because I wouldn't want to spend the money on a safe, but I also wouldn't want unsecured guns in the house... But I'm probably not the typical gun owner so what do I know.
They got your money. They don't care where you store them. They don't even care if they kill your daughter. They only oppose safe storage because they know the extra upfront cost will lose them sales.
Safe storage? Tbh probably increase, who do you think sells gun safes? They're in the "gunniverse" too it isn't just Colt.
They would say, well I have access to buying a Ferrari but I don't have the right to one.
I dunno, it sounds like you understand it perfectly. A large contingent of the U.S. has decided guns are more important than children's lives, and that's why they have more rights.
It is complicated and a lot of people are ignorant.
It's been made complicated by bad faith actors and years of propaganda. Fascinating really.
It's literally gun fetishism. Full stop.
The people who will angrily defend 2a are perfectly happy watching children die if it means they get to keep their guns. They'll give you all kinds of excuses, they'll come up with all manner of justifications, but the truth is, they just like feeling powerful and are willing to sacrifice innocent lives for it.
Don't forget the racism. The NRA's perfectly fine with throwing away gun rights if it means making sure only white people are armed. For example, even as Harlon Carter was ramping up his crusade to turn the NRA from a sportsman's organization into the gun lobby, the NRA still supported the Mulford Act, because at least that was taking guns away from those damn ni- I mean, "violent extremists". They were dead silent when a legal, responsible gun owner like Philando Castile was killed. They never said anything when the textbook definition of a "good guy with a gun", Emantic Bradford, was killed. And we all know damn well why.
The Harlon Carter school of gun rights comes with a major caveat present in many strains of conservatism: no restrictions as long as you're part of the right group.
I will say this though, the issue is still pretty complicated, because basically both sides have some history of racism (gun control first started as ways to assuage fears of black uprisings, plus the aforementioned Mulford Act), but then, what part of American society isn't in some way permeated by our racist history?
The Supreme Court has ruled that you're allowed "bearable arms", so essentially anything that can be carried, for self defense. And that requiring a weapon be kept locked up defeats the purpose of self defense.
Oregon has a law that requires guns be locked up, but dodges the self defense aspect by allowing an exception for guns under the direct control of the owner.
So if I'm home and in direct control of my guns, they don't have to be secured. If I leave home or am not otherwise present, they do.
"Why can't I carry my nuclear warhead loaded rocket launcher to Wall Mart?!"
Not "bearable".
See: JAIME CAETANO v. MASSACHUSETTS 2016
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/577/411/
“the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)
It would first have to pass the "dangerous and unusual weapons" test before even getting to the bearable test... At least according to ScaliaLaw.
Could've at least quoted Heller's common use if you wanted to make a point (even though I'd still disagree heavily), because "bearable arms" is a completely ambiguous term without a clear definition that is simply applied willy nilly to justify their gun fetishism.
Caetano supercedes Heller.
First, it is supersedes. Secondly, I don't see how Caetano is really replacing that ruling when it still uses the "bearable arms" mantra without being able to specify what "bearable arms" exactly are. Heller was at least able to say "all commonly used weapons today are bearable arms". It's still ridiculously stupid but at least it's some form of definition. So if Caetano goes over Heller, then the US went basically backwards and has no clear definition of what "bearable arms" fall under the 2nd. Make it make sense?
Can a 2 year old wrestle it away from you?
I dunno... have you seen some two year olds? ;)