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What discussion you know you are on the wrong side of? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Maybe you haven't been convinced by a good enough argument. Maybe you just don't want to admit you are wrong. Or maybe the chaos is the objective, but what are you knowingly on the wrong side of?

In my case: I don't think any games are obliged to offer an easy mode. If developers want to tailor a specific experience, they don't have to dilute it with easier or harder modes that aren't actually interesting and/or anything more than poorly done numbers adjustments. BUT I also know that for the people that need and want them, it helps a LOT. But I can't really accept making the game worse so that some people get to play it. They wouldn't actually be playing the same game after all...

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I am always on the right side of any discussion. Otherwise I wouldn't be on that side.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Same! I have 100% certainty in any topic that I happen to be on, and if i'm not 100% certain then I immediately excuse myself and hold my hands to ears screaming "lalala I have no opinion!" because it would be ignorant of me to even debate a topic I am not a complete expert on, said no one ever.

Come on. Discussions aren't binary. There are bits of that side you agree with, and bits of the other side you agree with and that weird eclectic mix puts you on uncertain spectrum that mostly leans to one side but oscillates in the middle at times, and that's completely okay because it's how you update your priors by being corrected by others whilst understanding that a lot of well informed stances are balancing on a few struts

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I have been bashed for saying sth similar in response to "you think your opinions are better than other people's opinions". Duh, yeah? Otherwise I would hold the other opinion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A lot of people seem to feel this way. Don’t let it become a tautology, however. It’s your opinion because you think it’s correct, NOT it’s correct because it’s your opinion. For example, plenty of folks justify homophobia because gay people make them feel icky and never examine whether or not their intuition is actually correct. You still have a responsibility to examine your conclusions on a topic and readjust as necessary!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

It’s your opinion because you think it’s correct, NOT it’s correct because it’s your opinion.

Exactly this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm glad you are like that, but dometimes people want to be convinced of the opposite side but haven't been able to, yet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yep. I don't argue for things I don't believe are the side I should be on. Sometimes I make tongue-in-cheek arguments (think A Modest Proposal) but that's not in a discussion. I don't get into arguments as a sport or to make people angry, so why ever be on a side I think is 'wrong'?