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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My only problem with this is that Geordi made it clear more than once that not only would he rather just be able to see, but that his VISOR caused him constant pain. I wouldn't really call that accommodating for his blindness if that's what was required to get into Starfleet later.

And, of course, that was what made it so impactful when he finally had eyes that worked.

And then there was Melora on DS9. Starfleet could have done so many things to fulfill her dream of traveling the stars without having her be stuck in the chair in near-1g environments or accept Bashir's treatments. In fact, the only reason so few Elaysians ever left their homeworld was that everyone else was fine with 1g and no one gave a shit about their needs.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Geordi made it clear more than once that not only would he rather just be able to see, but that his VISOR caused him constant pain

it was also suggested that his visor was "superior to human eyes". star trek is habitually inconsistent about its world and sometimes it is better not to think about it too much.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think that's contradictory at all though.

Geordi wanted to be able to see [naturally], but his visor is superior to human eyes in that it can see things that humans can't naturally see.

To put it a different way: a person with advanced bionic legs that never tire, could run far faster than any natural human, and bend in ways that human legs can't, would have superior legs. But there wouldn't be anything wrong with their stance if they said "yeah but I just want normal human legs".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think that’s contradictory at all though.

Geordi wanted to be able to see [naturally], but his visor is superior to human eyes in that it can see things that humans can’t naturally see.

we are nitpicking here, but if i amputate your hand and stitch can opener at its end, you can now do something normal human hand cannot, but i don't think anyone would call that superior, or prefer it to their own hand.

if geordi decided that after considering all factors, he would rather have normal eyes, then that is definition of "not superior" to me.

and just a reminder that this is the extraordinary experience we are talking about. i am definitely choosing my eyes 😆

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean a can opener is very different, no? Or at least it is when I try to put myself in those shoes.

A can opener can open cans but nothing more. Sure you gain one piece of functionality, but you lose others.

Geordi's visor was a bit different in that he could see the visible light spectrum, but also a bunch of other stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

bit different in that he could see the visible light spectrum

he could not: https://i.imgur.com/dlVpyIo.mp4

would you want to see like that? i mean if you were born blind and this was your only option, it is definitely better than nothing, but other than that, it is hard no from me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Geordie's new eyes were still bionic though weren't they? It's been a while, but I'm sure I remember him using them to search for someone in the movie.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Yes, they're still bionic