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I's heard news that BlueSky has been growing a lot as Xitter becomes worse and worse, but why do people seem to prefer BlueSky? This confuses me because BlueSky does not have any federalization technologies built into it, meaning it's just another centralized platform, and thus vulnerable to the same things that make modern social media so horrible.

And so, in the hopes of having a better understanding, I've come here to ask what problems Mastodon has that keep people from migrating to it and what is BlueSky doing so right that it attracts so many people.

This question is directed to those who have used all three platforms, although others are free to put out their own thoughts.

(To be clear, I've never used Xitter, BlueSky or Mastodon. I'm asking specifically so that I don't have to make an account on each to find out by myself.)


Edit:

Edit2: (changed the wording a bit on the last part of point 1 to make my point clearer.)

From reading the comments, here are what seems to be the main reasons:

  1. Federation is hard

The concept of federation seems to be harder to grasp than tech people expected. As one user pointed out, tech literacy is much less prevalent than tech folk might expect.

On Mastodon, you must pick an instance, for some weird "federation" tech reason, whatever that means; and thanks to that "federation" there are some post you cannot see (due to defederalization). To someone who barely understands what a server is, the complex network of federalization is to much to bare.

BlueSky, on the other hand, is simple: just go to this website, creating an account and Ta Da! Done! No need to understand anything else.

~~The federalized nature of Mastodon seems to be its biggest flaw.~~

The unfamiliar and more complex nature of Mastodon's federalization technology seems to be its biggest obstacle towards achieving mass adoption.

  1. No Algorithm

Mastodon has no algorithm to surface relevant posts, it is just a chronological timeline. Although some prefer this, others don't and would rather have an algorithm serving them good quality post instead of spending 10h+ curating a subscription feed.

  1. UI and UX

People say that Mastodon (and Lemmy) have HORRIBLE UX, which will surely drive many away from Mastodon. Also, some pointed out that BlueSky's overall design more closely follows that of Twitter, so BlueSky quite literally looks more like pre-Musk Xitter.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago (27 children)

You have to pick a Mastodon server, before you know anything about anything. The acquisition funnel probably drops 90% of the people checking it out right there.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Felt the same about Lemmy when I signed up.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just pick an open one, that's the easiest choice. No essays, no worrying about being denied, easy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You've stated this at least twice in this thread. People aren't like that, just in general. Heck, I understood it and still had trouble picking a server for Lemmy and mastadon.

Do I want a single topic or domain to define me? Will a small server have popular posts? Will it have popular people? I can't find this popular account because I'm typing in username instead of user+domain.

I created and deleted at least 5 before I gave up and just picked one. Is that what most people would do?

I don't think you're wrong, but I think you are not putting yourself in the shoes of most users who want to follow a celebrity or a train station or space agency and can't even find their account.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry I wasn't entirely clear, BIG server, with open sign-ups. The complaints about finding people aren't really valid when we have big servers like this one or mastodon.social. Such servers have the best reach and the easiest onboarding. Pick those.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

There are at least three viable commercial microblogging sites right now. So you already have all these problems, without even considering the Fediverse. The Fediverse is the SOLUTION to these problems, not the cause.

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