this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2024
530 points (98.9% liked)

politics

19096 readers
3558 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A better start to that would be:

"Trump, a pathological liar, has said he doesn't know about Project 2025"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unless he was diagnosed as a pathological liar, they should not. Not that he isn't, because he is, but as a news organization they should only provide the facts, quotes, and unbiased contextual information. That is what we should expect from the news. It should not be "left-leaning" or "right-leaning," because they shouldn't tell us what we should think about what they are reporting.

They should report that some of his former (and possibly current, if it's accurate) aids and expected cabinet members wrote, participated, or supported Project 2025. They should report what Trump's response was when asked about it, as well as including the factual context of how many people directly surrounding him that were openly involved (to give the lie to him "not knowing").

We need news to stop giving opinion. Period. They should strive to be as unbiased as possible, including reporting on events based on newsworthy-ness, not trying to be "fair" to the candidates by reporting on both in an equally negative way regardless of the severity of their respective news (e.g. Obama's tan suit vs. Trump's children in cages.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Then they don't have to use the word "pathological". If they aren't reminding people that the fascist liar is a liar, then they are part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I would assume they're also wary to give any opportunities to the serial libel/slander suit filer with a history of decrying "fake news". Especially backed by the DOJ.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I think "habitual liar" would be fair.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What am I missing here? Two sentences telling us his claims isn't the complete failure of journalism y'all seem to be insinuating it is...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Those two sentences would be a lot less horrible if they weren't prefaced with "THE FACTS:".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

It is a fact that Trump claimed not to know anything about it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Its more of selectively picking what he's said, also not including the previous versions

“The Reagan administration implemented nearly half of the ideas included in the first edition by the end of his first year in office, while the Trump administration embraced nearly 64% of the 2016 edition’s policy solutions after one year,” the Heritage Foundation said in a press release announcing Project 2025.

Back when Project 2025 was just getting started, Trump spoke at the Heritage Foundation’s annual leadership conference on April 21, 2022, and appeared to refer to the project, saying, “This is a great group, and they’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do and what your movement will do when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America. And that’s coming.”

But Trump has since pivoted sharply against the plan. “I know nothing about Project 2025,” Trump wrote on Truth Social on July 5. “I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”

sause So only including the part where he distanced himself from it is very sketchy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

This was likely true.

Trump didn’t need to know about it, and (since by all accounts, he’s functionally illiterate) he certainly never read it. Project 2025 is the brainchild of the same groups who chose Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Cavanaugh. Trump likely knew very little about them, too.

Trump was chosen because he’s easy to manipulate and is too incurious to care much about actual governance, so he won’t get in their way. All they need is for him to sign whatever they put in front of him between rounds of golf.

Trump likely didn’t know much about Project 2025 – but that absolutely did not mean it wasn’t the plan all along.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

The election coverage I saw on AP this week confirms that they are compromised as well. They are dead to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yikes, they should show how its related to him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

They should also mention that most everything he says is a lie.