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This is what I could find.
https://www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls?amp=1&_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=De%20%251%24s&aoh=17309681206772&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fpolitics%2F2024-elections%2Fexit-polls
Well that shows a 47-49 split instead of the 42-53 split originally posted for 18-29 men.
Two points vs 11 points. Exit polls are still just polls, prone to some hefty ranges.
"Boomers are turning this country to shit!"
GenX:
This is why I've been saying that we can't expect the population to simply age out of conservatism. If that worked, it would have happened generations ago. Perhaps as far back as "cooking food over fire is making kids these days weak".
Wish this would be adjusted for age. Obviously someone who had more time to accumulate wealth will have more wealth. The real question is how much wealth does each generation have at the same age.
It also matters at the time, as that's a form of power. Guess who can donate seriously to political campaigns, for example.
True. Question is a bit how much wealth is in things and how much in money - some boomer owning a nice house and a vacation home is very wealthy, but might not necessarily have the liquidity to donate if they live on some relatively small pension.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1376620/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/
(and time, don't forget time)
I am working off of one bar and have no electricity but this research has been done. I think pew has it, but it might be at ITAR
Then why Silent has so little?
It's extremely simple. How many people are alive born before 1946? Not many compared to the other generations. Their wealth went to their boomer children.
Well this here GenXer wishes he could have some of that wealth. Unless 'have a mortgage' constitutes wealth.
Mortgage? No. Equity in a house? Yes.
Equity in a house is not all that helpful when the house is in an undesirable town in an undesirable state.
My point is just that a mortgage is debt while equity is an asset, so I don't think you should consider a mortgage wealth.
Oh, I see. Yes, I agree.
It actually does. The amount paid off at least, since the property is the wealth.
Considering how little we're going to get back when we sell it within the next few months before fleeing to the UK, I would say that I don't think it's wealth.
Isn't the UK politics pretty similar to US?
In the sense that the UK isn't likely to force my queer daughter into a conversion camp in the near future, no.
I would say it's roughly equally likely
Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same.
Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States
You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864
These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense
You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons.
Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it.
Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it.
Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it.
Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide.
Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I.
Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do.