this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2024
523 points (95.2% liked)

politics

19089 readers
3942 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes...that's the point of the trolley problem. Someone does get crushed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The crushing is the point, yes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you get to pick how much crushing happens.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you get to pick how much crushing happens.

Which sounds like gloating from people who saw all the people tied to one set of tracks and used it as an excuse to tie that one guy to the other track.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And that is NOT how the trolley problem works. None of us tied anyone to the tracks. There's no one else. There's just people on the tracks, and a trolley, and a lever, and you. All of the set-up happened before you got there. You are only able to make a decision about the lever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And that is NOT how the trolley problem works.

That's because it's an abstract thought experiment. Here in concrete reality, Democratic politicians are willingly selling weapons to a genocidal apartheid regime, and refuse to stop. They could untie the guy any time they want, but are super worried that the guys who tied everyone else to the other set of tracks might not like them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter. All YOU can do is pull the lever, or not. You can't change who's on the track. You can't remove the trolley. You can't untie the people or lift up the tracks. In this sense, the trolley problem is almost a 1-for-1 representation of voting (in a swing state, at least). You can pull the lever, or not. Those are your options.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn’t matter.

To people who get what they want no matter the state of the lever.

I voted for Harris. I'm not going to proclaim that your genocide is the moral genocide just because you demand that I do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you pulled the lever. End of thought experiment.

Yay! You made it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd tell you to not be condescending but you will never be anything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In your case, it's because you often pretend to be dumber than you actually are, so I'm just playing along.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Condescending and abusive. Guess you can be something in addition to condescending after all.