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Something is wrong with this split-screen picture. On one side, former president Donald Trump rants about mass deportations and claims to have stopped "wars with France," after being described by his longest-serving White House chief of staff as a literal fascist. On the other side, commentators debate whether Vice President Kamala Harris performed well enough at a CNN town hall to "close the deal."

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Let’s review: First, Harris was criticized for not doing enough interviews — so she did multiple interviews, including with nontraditional media. She was criticized for not doing hostile interviews — so she went toe to toe with Bret Baier of Fox News. She was criticized as being comfortable only at scripted rallies — so she did unscripted events, such as the town hall on Wednesday. Along the way, she wiped the floor with Trump during their one televised debate.

Trump, meanwhile, stands before his MAGA crowds and spews nonstop lies, ominous threats, impossible promises and utter gibberish. His rhetoric is dismissed, or looked past, without first being interrogated.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It’s obvious that there is a double standard but it’s too late to point it out.

Time is up.

If people are “undecided” they aren’t going to even consider media fairness or maybe even logic at this point.

It’s Donald Fuckin Trump. Rapist. Fascist. Liar. Cheat. Insert hundreds of other negatives and reasons why he should not have power and be in jail.

It’s voting time. That’s all that’s left. He won the media and the narrative enough to make it a race at all. Pointing it out now is fruitless - he got away with that shit for his purposes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Looking at the fivethiryeight predictions pages, Trump already has a lock or lean right on 262 votes, and Harris is at 226. Harris has to take Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan or its over, and her voters are in disarray and are half hearted while trumps always vote stronger than polling indicates. It looks to be effectively over unless Harris makes some big changes to energize her base. She's sure as hell not going to get anything by pissing off even more people by digging rightward, but I'd bet real money that thats what she will try.

If she'd pledge to stop the weapons flow on day 1 she'd have the race, but she wont do that, for whatever reason.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I think she’ll take Michigan.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

It's weird that there's a person that you can call a liar, rapist and con man and not be afraid of being sued for libel or slander, and lots of people think he'll be great at running a country.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It has been pointed out for as long as Trump is running against any candidate but it didn't change a thing. If anything, the double standard only got worse over the years.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was hopeful when media figures started to ask themselves how to better cover Trump after 2016. NPR and On The Media had some decent journalism panels where they dug into the problems with obeying long-standing rules/norms to cover a candidate that weaponizes them. I saw a possibility for real reflection and maybe a significant course correction. That door slammed shut like 2 fucking years ago, and they've played EXACTLY the same game over this campaign. I knew we were fucked when a reporter came on after the Biden-Trump debate to say, essentially, "...and some of Trump's supporters have claimed, without evidence, that Joe Biden has died."

That's it. That was the end of her coverage. They can't even bring themselves to open their eyes long enough to observe unequivocally THAT THE PRESIDENT IS NOT DEAD. If the American experiment fails, a shitload of blame will lay at the feet of the media, who have long since abandoned their pursuit of "T"ruth in favor of the toxoplasma of rage.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

I completely forgot about this until I read your comment. My grandmother whole-heartedly believed Biden was a clone or had been replaced by a doppelganger by the middle of his first year as President, and that he had died of covid. By then she had stopped watching FOX and moved on to OANN.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

It’s obvious that there is a double standard but it’s too late to point it out.

For this election, sure, but there is still a good reason to acknowledge the double standard that has been ongoing for decades now that it is comically blatant. It might be acknowledged by low information idiots in the future.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

A lot of people are answering undecided on polls in protest over Harris support for the Israeli genocide but intend to actually vote for her due to the significantly worse threat posed by Trump. She could massively improve her polling numbers by just committing to stopping arms shipments to Israel and imposing sanctions on them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You getting downvoted for your suggestion with no replies as to why shows that this place has a lot of hasbara operating in it. They are actively destroying the democratc party, and the US as a whole, and they couldnt care less about that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

This is highly unlikely to cause a statistically significant difference in the polls. Having this strong of a view point on the matter is largely isolated to a specific demographic of younger, progressive voters, who are notoriously difficult to reach and accurately account for via traditional polling methods.

It registers as the 15th most important issue via a Gallup poll, and that doesn't account for which "side" the individuals polled support.

Of the 30% of the population saying it is an "extremely important issue," it gives no indication of what their desired resolution is.

On the extreme end of the spectrum, consider that 30% of our nation is in a death cult that believes Israel plays a role in their eventual salvation, not to mention how many people are blatantly racist and view anyone with darker skin as a terrorist.

I am registered, politically active, not difficult to locate and have had the same phone number for 20 years, yet, I MIGHT have been polled once in that time!

This isn't to say there aren't those who are doing as they say, but it is not likely to move polls one way or another.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Arms deals to Israel are codified into law. President can’t just “stop” them.

Talk to Congress.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nonsense, Not shipping arms to countries plausibly beleive to be involved in genocide is the Leahy law. All she'd have to say is "I beleive theres concern here and thus the shipments stop, according to our compliance with our own laws". She doesnt need congress.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Until House Republicans pass a bill to force the scheduled shipments to continue. Again. (Didn't get to the floor of the Democratically-controlled Senate the first time.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's actually a pretty idiotic way to "protest."

Wow, we've got inaccurate polls. Good job?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, the poll is accurate in so much as they really don't "support" Harris and her policies. If we had a proportional voting system they would be voting for her near the middle of the pack with Trump of course in dead last. She's just the second worst choice between the two choices we're given.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

She's just the second worst choice between the two choices we're given.

"Best choice". Seems way easier to say.