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The future is now (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Maybe hypothetically in the future, but it's plainly obvious to anyone who has a modicum of understanding regarding how LLMs actually work that they aren't even anywhere near being close to what anyone could possibly remotely consider sentient.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

but it’s plainly obvious to anyone who has a modicum of understanding regarding how LLMs actually work

This is a woman who asks chatGPT for relationship advice.

[+] [email protected] -10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sentient and capable of suffering are two different things. Ants aren't sentient, but they have a neurological pain response. Drag thinks LLMs are about as smart as ants. Whether they can feel suffering like ants can is an unsolved scientific question that we need to answer BEFORE we go creating entire industries of AI slave labour.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I PROMISE everyone ants are smarter than a 2024 LLM. (edit to add:) Claiming they’re not sentient is a big leap.

But I’m glad you recognise they can feel pain!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Cite a study that shows it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-022-01784-1

Big LLMs are far more complex, but they're also made be people who don't have a clue what they're doing, so in the future we'll probably have much smaller ones.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

BEEF DOESNT NEED STUDY BEEF HAVE KNOWING and knowing is half the battle GEE EYE JOEEE

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sentient and capable of suffering are two different things.

Technically true, but in the opposite way to what you're thinking. All those capable of suffering are by definition sentient, but sentience doesn't necessitate suffering.

Whether they can feel suffering like ants can is an unsolved scientific question

No it isn't, unless you subscribe to a worldview in which sentience could exist everywhere all at once instead of under special circumstances, which would demand you grant ethical consideration to every rock on the ground in case it's somehow sentient.