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The only possible non-gecko engine alternative to Firefox that isn't even viable yet is Ladybird and I haven't done a deep dive on its governance at all.
It's Firefox for the foreseeable future
There's also Servo, or Orion. The former being nowhere near done like Ladybird and the latter being iOS and Mac exclusive atm.
Orion is using WebKit on the backend, which is well established and available in a few other browser projects
Ladybird is ran by transphobes afaik
It looks like someone did a PR in 2021 asking them to change their language in their build instructions to be gender neutral and they locked it to say that that was not the place for 'ideologically driven requests from new accounts/non-contributers'. The same person said they wouldn't be against that PR in 2023. The team then changed their docs to use general neutral language, as far as I can tell.
While it's still a huge red flag, I'd be interested to know if you're aware of any other viewpoints or specific actions from other devs from the project.
No I'm just parroting what the nerds in my life have said
Understandable. I was just curious because someone recently mentioned the SimpleX dev also being a conspiracy lover and a bigot, which was totally true.
Got it. This was the piece I was generically worried about having not looked into it beyond occasionally checking for project updates. Hopefully a fork arises over time.