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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“If you just listen to these general statements, she actually sounds like a moderate Republican,” Luntz said.

“So the challenge for the Trump campaign is to just stop with these incessant character attacks, and challenge her on the specific issues and her claims,” he said.

The author is expecting trump to act logically...

I have no idea who would think that's even an option, trump will do the same thing every Republican has done since the rise of American neoloberalism in the 90s:

Move even further right to differentiate from "moderate" Dems.

The result is the Dem candidates start sounding like moderate republicans. Which the author also seems to think is a good thing.

That means the two candidates we have to choose from is the Dem who sounds like a moderate Republican and a completely insane fascist.

I dont know why anyone that isn't at least as far to the right as a moderate Republican would celebrate that is the most left leaning option. Even they have to realize this arrangement only helps the extreme rightwing party because it turns everyone left of center off from the Dem party. Instead of people happy to vote D, we get people who might not vote at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Move even further right to differentiate from “moderate” Dems.

Which is bad if it means the Dems swing rightward. Fortunately, I have reason to believe the opposite is happening.

Remember, Senator Elizabeth Warren was once considered a die hard conservative: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/16/elizabeth-warren-was-once-republican-she-shouldnt-hide-it/

But her current views seem quite leftie to me. This means me think the shift is going in the opposite direction.

The result is the Dem candidates start sounding like moderate republicans. Which the author also seems to think is a good thing.

Sounding is good in 2024 to retain the never trumpers who pushed Biden past the post in 2020. The danger is less sounding, and more actually becoming. Fortunately I don't think that's happening..

The author is expecting trump to act logically…

Agreed. Anyone who expects this is bound to be disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

get people who might not vote at all

if harris loses this election, then the country is finished. i hope these "protest vote" morons enjoy being arrested for not being sufficiently obsequious to trump and his roving loyalty verification squads. maybe their "principles" will save them LOL

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I think this is a big part of why Harris can win. She'll pull in enough of the Liz Cheney minded folks, and all but the most extreme lefties will still reliably swing for Harris as well - for exactly the reason you state.

Folks who state that Harris shouldn't be trying to be moderate or centralist are making a big mistake here. Those on the left would never stop supporting the Dem party while Democracy itself is at state in this country. The ones we're most likely to lose are the actually the ones who are in the centre, and I fear that these are the ones we can least afford to lose (in particular since so many of them seem to live in the midwest (where smaller states mean higher voting power per person) and in the battleground states.