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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Stenzek gets a ton of abuse from the emulation community that is undeserved. I remember when he made PlayStation 2 emulation on Android possible with AetherSX2 under another username/alias, a massive technological leap, and the community treated him like trash. Moves like this are just in response to the entitlement and poor behaviour that some people directed towards Stenzek. Yes it sucks for the rest of us who behave appropriately online, but none of this would be happening if others treated the guy with respect in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Soo, how exactly CC solves the issue? I suspect it wouldn't stop those who ignored a much more lax GPL, tbh

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Stenzek is Tahlreth?! I had no idea. It's such a shame what happened. AetherSX2 was magic when it dropped. Thought Android PS2 emulation was literally impossible on current or even near future hardware until it just suddenly appeared.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have no context here, but isn't getting a similar level of pushback from the community under a second alias evidence of some of it being justified? Or did people somehow discover it was the same person and then the abuse started?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's what I'm wondering.

I haven't heard any reports of or seen any abuse for emulators like Xenia, RPCS3, Dolphin, Citra, etc. I wonder if this is something unique/specific to people finding out it's Stenzek, or if it's more widespread than we realize?

Personally, I do think non-permissive licenses aren't nice, and I do think there should be criticisms, skepticism, and concerns to be voiced about that. At the same time, if it's the owners project, he is free to do with it as he wishes. Then again, if something has a large enough of a community, you could argue that it's no longer just their project. But I understand that if you want to prevent people profiting off of your work (and your contributors work), a no-commercial license does make sense. It's a complex situation.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Emulation community and treating the people who make emulation possible like shit, name a more iconic duo

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is not the emulation community per-se, but what happened to Near was absolutely heartbreaking.

Open source devs are often difficult, single-minded, and poorly socialized, people, but the entitlement from users is enough to make anyone go insane.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're not wrong, but the underlying traits that make them that way is also what drives them to build FOSS software instead of maximizing their income potential at any and all costs. Meanwhile, most users just suuuuuuuck.

It shouldn't fall on developers, but maybe the community should normalize finding a willing representative willing to listen to all the hot garbage the community throws at devs and have that person monitor various channels then relay only the relevant stuff to the Dev. Cause as it stands, difficult or not, FOSS devs are working for free and dont deserve the hate they get.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely and I will be the first to offer praise. Honestly, I think the fact that FOSS devs trend weird and neurotic is not because of anything special with Open Source but because the non-neurotic ones are pulling down 300K salaries at Google. If big tech wasn't absorbing all of their employees mental capacity many of them would be doing FOSS for fun.