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[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (4 children)

May I ask - why is anyone bothering to install Windows 11 on old hardware in the first place?

Old hardware is better for Linux. Either install Linux or you can get used to having your old hardware be used as a paperweight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Be me
Teach intro to it-support/devops Course is relatively cheap for the school, as we only use the stuff that the IT dept has obsoleted
Currently getting 4th gen core i7 machines Life is good, every student has a few i7 machines for clients (win 10) and windows server
Microsoft announces end of life for win 10 Hate win 11, but if we must...
MFW Microsoft announces the requirement of CPUs 4 gens newer than the newest machines we're receiving. And I now have to tell my boss that the otherwise cheap course, with not enough students otherwise, will need an investment of at least 18 new desktop machines

Anybody hiring?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Because people will click on the YouTube video you make trying it.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (4 children)

In this context an unsupported cpu would be an i7 7700K for example. Hardly e-waste and can perform quite well..

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Those aren't supported but they're not affected by this specific change. The latest chips that won't be able to boot are Core 2 Duo and the Athlon X2 chips that predated AMD Phenom. Old old.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

My poor Athlon II x64 6400 isn't that old 😭

I am actually surprised my nostalgia build still works TBH

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I finally upgraded from a 3rd gen i7 to a 6th gen i7. There was no actual performance difference besides my gpu vram getting hotter, I just did it because the motherboard wasn't as shit. I'm sure the difference between a 6th gen i7 and an 8th gen i7 is equally unnoticeable. I didn't want to ever boot Windows again anyway.

Edit: huh, I'm intrigued by the downvotes. Is it because I used the wording "no actual performance difference" rather than providing benchmarks and proof? Is it because computer technology isn't improving at the rate it used to and people are in denial and/or easily triggered about it? Or maybe because I'm "probably a troll" based on my username?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

It's probably because running such old hardware means your daily usage wouldn't show much difference between the 2 setups. If you mainly browse the internet or play gpu boumd games, you simply wouldn't notice a huge difference.

Change that use case to cpu bound games or other cpu intensive tasks and you would likely see a not insignificant difference.

Also newer hardware is more efficient(used to at least), so you should see lower power draw for the same performance or better performance for the same power draw.

So just because you don't see a difference, it doesn't mean it's not there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Laughs in 3770k just until a few months ago

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My 3930k is still alive and kicking. Just need it to hold out until Gen 15.

It also runs Windows 11 just fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

i7-950 here. I don’t use it every day, but it still runs very smoothly. Even though the memory is a little slow at times

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

7700K supports popcnt.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or just... Stay on Windows 10? There's nothing wrong with it compared to Windows 11 (though Linux is usually a better choice).