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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, this is the correct take here. Trying to pretend that this was the plan all along is disingenuous. There was no plan other than 'Biden bad'.

The fact that Kamala Harris has clutched momentum and has good odds came out of literally nowhere, as did Harris herself.

It also can't be ignored that the 'Biden bad' message was being pushed hard artificially by billionaires and Russia, which didn't exactly fill a lot of Democrats with hope that it was a realistic option.

We lucked out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

we did not luck out and the plan was not “biden bad.”

the plan was “biden is increasingly showing age and is actively losing an election that should be easy to win. polling shows that any other generic nominee does better than joseph robinette biden, so the logical next step is to replace him with his vice president.”

the trouble is we said that, and you didn’t listen. i was actively scoffed at and called a nazi for saying the above. poll data that showed proof of the above was downvoted and called manipulation. even when the donors started stepping down, it was still called fraudulent and irrelevant. i never hand waved someone asking me who replaces biden, and i always responded harris especially as the time got later. and again i was downvoted and scoffed at for that.

this was not luck, and you should start actively listening to people you disagree with more because you display some saddening signs of intentional ignorance here.