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"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that 'some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest' of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called 'social fascists.'

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The presidential election is not the time for any of that. You have a fundamental misunderstanding about how elections work if this is the only time you care about third parties.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It definitely isn’t the only time I care about third parties. Continued direct action in the community is the most important way to affect change. The election is just a useful event for publicity and gaining support for groups.

There’s 0% chance my comment is going to convince enough people this election cycle that it effects a non swing states election. It’s about slowly building support for groups.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago

Georgia surprised us before, maybe they will again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm with you. I'm all about building support. Just as long as people understand there's a time and place for it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People have said that for 40 years. It's always the right time to do the right thing.

Eta and for 40 years things have gotten worse for everyone but fat international corporate conglomerates and VERY wealthy people. The time is now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And for 40 years voting in your local elections has changed things. That's when you vote for change. If you think the presidential election is the time to vote differently you're not paying attention, plain and simple.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, as I said elsewhere itt ,things have gotten alarmingly worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, what you said was people have been saying the same thing for 40 years, and implied it doesn't make a difference.

That is false.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you know what "elsewhere" means? Okay, I may not have used the word "alarmingly."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your not even American. Fuck off with your bullshit.