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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then I guess you're a hypocrite for claiming that it's so horrible to call you a tankie.

keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over again, I’m sure the results will eventually be different!

I'm confused. Are you talking about voting third party, or... ?

What you are trying to do will necessarily help Trump, so it rings fully hollow when you claim you want good outcomes for Palestine or anyone else. Further, Trump is fully opposite anything a socialist believes. Wonder why that doesn't bother you at all... hmm...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No need for the strawman, you know full well I never said Trump, a conservative neoliberal, was good for the working class. Get lost lib.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know, without any shred of doubt, that any vote not for a democrat is one that helps trump.

No need to pretend with me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's not how logic works buddy. My non support for A does not imply my support of B. The same way you not supporting option C does not imply you support B. It simply implies that you support A.

Votes are earned, not deserved.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My non support for A does not imply my support of B

Literally exactly how a two-party system works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This isn't a two party system. The only thing that makes it a two party system is YOUR continued support of the same party over and over again. If you'd stop doing the same thing over and over again we wouldn't be here. I'm doing my part, you aren't.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it is effectively a two party system. Until the day that all parties have an opportunity to be treated equally, that will be the case. You know this. Why do you pretend not to?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The only thing that makes it a two party system is YOUR continued support of the same party over and over again.

That's on you bud, not on me.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's on me and hundreds of millions of people. Most of which are unreachable with your canvassing and a huge percentage of which are needed to make any positive difference whatsoever.

Unfortunately for you, empowering trump and Israel is on you, because you can easily see that your actions empower them. It doesn't take a soothsayer to know that Stein will get way less than 2% of the vote, 2% that will help trump but gives her zero chance of winning.

You won't move the needle toward third parties but you will be responsible for death and suffering, and then you'll say it was not your fault even though you did something you knew would lead to death and destruction. But you didn't care, did you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's on me and hundreds of millions of people.

Correct.

Unfortunately for you, empowering trump

That is entirely on neoliberalism creating the material conditions necessary for fascism to exist, and siding with the right whenever the egemony is threatened. We see that clear as day with the recent election in France for example.

and Israel

The Democratic party needs no help from anyone for that one. Not even the GOP. You're projecting hard.

It doesn't take a soothsayer to know that Stein will get way less than 2% of the vote, 2% that will help trump but gives her zero chance of winning.

Why do you assume that those voters would vote for the democratic party exactly? Again, a vote is earned not deserved.

You won't move the needle toward third parties

I know I won't, but you could. You don't want too, that's different.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Boooooh! Better run, better hide! A specter is upon you!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what the fuck this means but I said what I meant to say. You give no fucks that you're helping trump and therefore Israel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It means I'm calling you childish for blaming others and calling them "evil" (w/e that even means) for the consequences of your own action.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah we just cannot foresee the results of 200K people voting for Jill Stein. Just cannot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The result will be 200K voted for Jill Stein. You should be more worried about the 100M who vote GOP and the 100M who vote Democrat. But that would actually be attacking the status quo, libs can't have that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Lol yeah you're either a complete fraud or not bright at all.