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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (13 children)

I’ve come to the conclusion, people who use vim just continue to do so out of a stubborn sense of pride for finally learning the key combinations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

When you only need to hammer a nail every once in a while, any hammer will do. When you're a roofer, you better have a roofing hammer.

If you don't spend your life in a terminal and just need to edit a file, vim isn't for you. If you want to learn complex strings of arcane wizardry to not only make your life easier but amaze your underlings, use vim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

no, modal text editors are just nicer to use

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

There is no sense of pride. Every text/code editor has key combinations that many users will learn eventually. Vim has easier key bindings.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

What do you mean? The vim users know their key combinations pretty well, that's kind of the point of vim.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Somehow it seems this would apply to any linux user

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It's not pride, it's just that I know how to use it really well and that makes it easy for me to use.

But it's really only for viewing files on another system over SSH. For local work I use Sublime Text

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

I mean, yeah, kind of. In the same way pilots fly planes out of a stubborn sense of pride for knowing what all the flight deck controls do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I just use vi

Is that stupid? It's all I ever bothered to learn, hasn't failed me yet. Now I'm not some big time linux guru but I'm a sysadmin and regularly find myself elbow deep in a CLI for stuff.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I honestly learned it just because I hated having to change hand position to use a mouse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Can you use a mouse in nano? I always just use the arrow keys, or page up/down and home/end

I mostly use vim but I barely use the jkl; to navigate the document.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Even if you use arrows, you still have to reposition your hand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

nano -m <file> or set mouse in your nanorc

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Ah sorry, I meant using Vim in a GUI program. I wanted something with the flexibility of a mouse (quick navigation, context menu actions, etc.) without using a mouse. Using just the arrow keys, shift highlighting, etc. is just too slow when writing lots of text, and it doesn't follow the natural position of typing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

It's just convenient that it's pre-installed on many servers.
So I can use it now everywhere with my stubborn sense of pride for finally learning the key combinations.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In my case it's not a sense of pride. I can't use anything other than Vim because I keep accidentally putting random incantations into my word documents.

"There once was a dduuuZQ:q!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That extension is actually pretty cool. There is also tridactyl and a browser that was made with vim in mind, but a browser and a text editor are too different for many things to translate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

thanks for sharing, I'll try it on my work machine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ya know, I might throw that on to my browser but I doubt I'd actually use it much. I only really use my browser for research; notes, music, and most of my work is done in the terminal. Being able to swap tabs faster by not having to cycle could be useful, but other than that I find the mouse to be a pretty rapid way of navigating unfamiliar pages

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

in my case, my hand hurts if I use mouse(or a mobile phone) for some time. using j/k for scrolling and clicking links via f help me a lot.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

I am faster, more comfortable, and more productive in Vim. I use the same keybindings in all my editors and IDEs. It's okay for people to have different preferences.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

That's funny, I feel the same way about Excel users.