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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol and Apple doesnt do any of that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I can't. Everything they release is proprietary and locked down, so let's just trust their narrative.

I can only recommend well researched eyeopener from Techaltar: https://youtu.be/JHnBOUNxHsw

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So, they’re doing shit you can prove, but they’re doing it. Do I have that right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I will be honest that I don't know what exact shit are we discussing here I rather wanted to point out that Apple might not be as much privacy first company as they like to present themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

If they’re not, I’m sure it should be easy for you to provide evidence to support your claim. That’s all I’m asking.

That is the shit we are talking about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No proof.
But even the US is scared of encrypted exfiltrated data because their adversaries could crack the encryption later on.

Same here.
They have the data and for now decided to not yet do do anything too bad with it.
But Google also had the motto "Don't be evil" at one point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Apple absolutely does collect huge amounts of data from the users. The difference is they don't directly 'sell' that data to advertisers. Instead they get paid to personalize the ads themselves and wear that as a badge for 'advocating privacy'. Stock Android is horrendous compared to what Apple does, yes. However you usually have the option to ditch it for a more privacy respecting Android.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same for you. Proof that Apple isn't using it to analyze your (usage) data.
And it's not okay just because it's the 1st party analyzing it because they arent selling it.

I am really tired of the hypocrisy of some lemmy users advocating for maximum privacy to the detriment of everyone around them but on the other hand just saying "yeah, that's totally fine" and basically breaking all their principles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

The article we are commenting on, along with the countless others that call out Google/android for snooping in your data and selling it off is my proof.

I really tired of lemmy users that think because one thing is bad- ALL things similar are bad.

Is almost like nuance is just something kids don’t seem to understand anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look up a YT channel called Tech-Bore

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yes it is, because he shows you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

When the time comes that I’m willing to go to random dudes on YouTube for my news, I’ll buy whatever bridge you’re selling.

That day isn’t today.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They haven't done anything with that data yet*

While clearly the lesser evil in this moment, I wouldn't count on that lasting forever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

As every user at some points mentions: They are a public company and once they can't satisfy their shareholders, they will turn on the data faucet to 3rd parties. They already have the an advertisement CDN.
They already have everything in place to achieve that situation.